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steeleye20 Croydon 15 Dec 18 6.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
To quote from the article: In 1999, Britain’s 'top academic economists' polled heavily in favour of the UK joining the eurozone. At the University of California, Berkeley, economist Andy Rose published an article claiming countries that adopted the euro would exponentially increase their trade with each other, which would make them all more prosperous. In 2015, after an important study had established that the euro produced no trade gains, Andy Rose published a mea culpa. He acknowledged that his earlier analysis improperly extrapolated from the experience of smaller monetary unions of mainly poorer countries, and did not apply to the eurozone. By then, the grim costs of the extended eurozone crisis were evident. The euro created no obvious benefits but carried all-too-real risks. True, unlike the euro, open borders generate recognisable trade benefits. But the benefits are overstated, and the adverse distributional consequences are too often swept under the rug. By much the same logic as Krugman used in his recent tweets, the Harvard economist Dani Rodrik explains that economic welfare changes only modestly when countries with extensive trade relationships increase or decrease the extent of their international trade. Rodrik, therefore, tenaciously highlights the troubling fact that contemporary trade agreements disproportionately help the most successful. “Trade agreements,” he writes, “are driven overwhelmingly by a business-led agenda. The implicit economic model is one of trickle-down: make investors happy and the benefits will eventually flow down to the rest of society. The interests of labor—good pay, high labor standards, employment security, voice in the workplace, bargaining rights—get little lip service.” The EU is the world’s most advanced form of “trade agreement” and, hence, comes with all the ills that Rodrik underscores. Well-heeled lobbyists representing business interests influence nearly 75 per cent of EU laws. Hey Steely....looks like you found why Richard B supports Remain. “Trade agreements,” he writes, “are driven overwhelmingly by a business-led agenda There we are and unlike you I actually read posters before replying to them. So can leave please show what trade agreements are in place for when we leave the EU in 100 days time. Just tell us please.....
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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 15 Dec 18 7.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I don't think he typed all of this. pretty sure Funty did.
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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 15 Dec 18 8.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Most people would judge you as a liar, not a couple of weeks a go you said the same against Maple and I.
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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Dec 18 8.20pm | |
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Originally posted by pefwin
Most people would judge you as a liar, not a couple of weeks a go you said the same against Maple and I. What? As usual, I have no idea what you are on about.
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silvertop Portishead 15 Dec 18 8.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
That's what I like about this site. We are kind to the loons. You cannot offer a dissenting opinion to the lunatic left/Remain/liberal/ minority alliance on the BBS or else you get banned in 24 hours. A place run by dickheads for dickheads. Here we tolerate anybody... Except Gusset. Once again, that link of left and remain. Where do you get this from? The left is as leave as the right.
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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Dec 18 9.07pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Once again, that link of left and remain. Where do you get this from? The left is as leave as the right. True, but the Lefty zealots on the Palace sites seem very much to be predominantly Remainers. It is a certain type that rejects all things English and hates anyone who wants to preserve the English way of life.
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steve1984 15 Dec 18 10.35pm | |
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Comrades this is a seriously good book and still time to order it for Christmas. Edited by steve1984 (15 Dec 2018 10.35pm) Attachment: 41fmMA0p1NL._SX320_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg (19.88Kb)
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Stirlingsays 15 Dec 18 10.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I don't think he typed all of this.
Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Dec 2018 10.56pm)
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Stirlingsays 15 Dec 18 10.58pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
“Trade agreements,” he writes, “are driven overwhelmingly by a business-led agenda There we are and unlike you I actually read posters before replying to them. So can leave please show what trade agreements are in place for when we leave the EU in 100 days time. Just tell us please.....
WTO. We already use them.....you might read posters Steely...that doesn't mean you necessarily understand them my man. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Dec 2018 10.59pm)
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Mapletree Croydon 15 Dec 18 11.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Dec 2018 10.56pm) Funty sets em up, I knock them down
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 16 Dec 18 12.19am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Funty sets em up, I knock them down Better luck next time, my dear Mapleleaf.
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Tawny Croydon 16 Dec 18 12.34am | |
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I notice that the odds of a second vote are now about 50 / 50. At one point the proposition of a second vote surely looked like complete pie in the sky stuff but with the collective shrug of our so called respresentatives I can see how throwing it back to the people again may now be on the agenda. I voted to remain though had long since accepted that we'd be leaving in some form, so I find myself in a strange position. The whole thing is a carcrash.
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