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 Teddy Eagle  04 Jan 21 10.44am |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
No point Teddy, you’ll never get a straight answer. If he thinks he’s right (which he does all the time) then he will literally make up anything to try and support his argument. He reminds me a little of the Python right room for an argument sketch. He is the contradiction. Also the Black Knight - ‘tis but a scratch... I’m invincible....alright we’ll call it a draw.
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Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 04 Jan 21 10.45am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So how does taking a knee predate BLM? That was your claim. That there was a movement called BLM which started in 2013 is not what I am describing. BLM as a protest movement gained widespread attention after the death of George Floyd. It was only then that it became known here and in most parts of the world, other than in specific areas of the USA. "Taking the knee" as a symbol of those protests only started with BLM in 2020 but was used by Colin Kaepernick in 2016 as his protest against racism and police brutality. Thus in this context it predates the BLM protests.
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| Teddy Eagle 04 Jan 21 10.59am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That there was a movement called BLM which started in 2013 is not what I am describing. BLM as a protest movement gained widespread attention after the death of George Floyd. It was only then that it became known here and in most parts of the world, other than in specific areas of the USA. "Taking the knee" as a symbol of those protests only started with BLM in 2020 but was used by Colin Kaepernick in 2016 as his protest against racism and police brutality. Thus in this context it predates the BLM protests. Never heard of Ferguson?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Jan 21 11.00am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I know the Proud Boys have had Antifa infiltration issues so I have little doubt that it also happens in reverse. However, it would be minor on the scale of these organisations and more about intelligence gathering. But I wouldn't rule out some violence. Still, it wouldn't be against what Antifa/Blm have been pushing anyway. The Democrats didn't name and criticise these organisations before the elections and to see it now is transparent. They are criminal and their apologists are part of the problem. The Democrats behaved responsibly. Anfifa doesn't have an organisation to name as there is no organised structure. The use of the term "BLM" extends much further than the organisation which has hi-jacked it. So to condemn criminality without seeking to falsely label genuine protestors is a thoughtful approach designed to avoid escalation. Trump in contrast just lashed out with as much subtlety as a bull in a china shop. That might have pleased his base but did nothing to actually solve the problem. This is no different to condemning Muslims or pakistanis for group rapes when we ought to be speaking of groups of criminals and allow the police to do their jobs without alienating whole communities. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (04 Jan 2021 11.08am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Jan 21 11.07am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Never heard of Ferguson? Yes, but that isn't the context I am writing about. That wasn't when the BLM protest movement went international and reached here. BLM as a protest adopted "taking the knee" in 2020 but Kaepernick used it in 2016. That's all I meant. It's not complicated.
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| Teddy Eagle 04 Jan 21 11.16am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Yes, but that isn't the context I am writing about. That wasn't when the BLM protest movement went international and reached here. BLM as a protest adopted "taking the knee" in 2020 but Kaepernick used it in 2016. That's all I meant. It's not complicated. So a man who supports an organisation which has been in existence for three years adopts a gesture which is then associated with that organisation but widespread acceptance of that gesture is nothing to do with that organisation.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Jan 21 11.37am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So a man who supports an organisation which has been in existence for three years adopts a gesture which is then associated with that organisation but widespread acceptance of that gesture is nothing to do with that organisation. On what basis do you think he supports the BLM "organisation"? So far as I am aware his protests were entirely his own and not done in the name of any organisation. Indeed his protests were about much wider concerns. That he may well share the sentiment behind the protests that snowballed after the death of George Floyd is irrelevant. Many do, but have no connection to, or sympathy with, the "organisation" which styles itself BLM.
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| Stirlingsays 04 Jan 21 11.42am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The Democrats behaved responsibly. Anfifa doesn't have an organisation to name as there is no organised structure. The use of the term "BLM" extends much further than the organisation which has hi-jacked it. So to condemn criminality without seeking to falsely label genuine protestors is a thoughtful approach designed to avoid escalation. Trump in contrast just lashed out with as much subtlety as a bull in a china shop. That might have pleased his base but did nothing to actually solve the problem. This is no different to condemning Muslims or pakistanis for group rapes when we ought to be speaking of groups of criminals and allow the police to do their jobs without alienating whole communities. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (04 Jan 2021 11.08am) Once again, you spout nothing but one eyed apologist rubbish. You have never been interested in anything even approaching the truth.
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| mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 04 Jan 21 11.42am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That there was a movement called BLM which started in 2013 is not what I am describing. BLM as a protest movement gained widespread attention after the death of George Floyd. It was only then that it became known here and in most parts of the world, other than in specific areas of the USA. "Taking the knee" as a symbol of those protests only started with BLM in 2020 but was used by Colin Kaepernick in 2016 as his protest against racism and police brutality. Thus in this context it predates the BLM protests.
I think you'll find City Airport is in London, England, as well as the other places listed in the article from the BBC below: "In August protesters blocked roads in Nottingham, Birmingham and the M4 at Heathrow, in a day of anti-racist activism. Nineteen people were arrested".
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| Teddy Eagle 04 Jan 21 12.20pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
On what basis do you think he supports the BLM "organisation"? So far as I am aware his protests were entirely his own and not done in the name of any organisation. Indeed his protests were about much wider concerns. That he may well share the sentiment behind the protests that snowballed after the death of George Floyd is irrelevant. Many do, but have no connection to, or sympathy with, the "organisation" which styles itself BLM. Then you need to increase your awareness.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Jan 21 2.54pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Then you need to increase your awareness. Why? I get my information from sources I regard as reliable and not subject to wild unedited conspiracy theories. I don't suppose any of us personally witnessed these events. Show me something that has been verified as factually true which confirms your "awareness" and then maybe you might have a point.
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| Stirlingsays 04 Jan 21 3.02pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Why? I get my information from sources I regard as reliable and not subject to wild unedited conspiracy theories. I don't suppose any of us personally witnessed these events. Show me something that has been verified as factually true which confirms your "awareness" and then maybe you might have a point. The guy who spent months on here pushing the Russia conspiracy theory now says he only believes in things that can be verified as factually true. Honestly you couldn't make it up.
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