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spartakev2 Flag Anerley 06 Sep 18 11.37am Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Your not listening!! 100 as a group is more power full than 100 individuals. on your bassis why have a family section? why sell cheap tickets to kids when we could have adults only and pay full price? Because you know and I know it benifits the club long term as do the fanatics!!
NO BUISNESS must stand still, it needs to move with the times,move with the trends move with greater good off the buisness. So for that reason I would like them moved into the middle and have no problem upsetting a few for the greater good.

Edited by dannyboy1978 (06 Sep 2018 11.16am)

Edited by dannyboy1978 (06 Sep 2018 11.19am)

Absolutely, which is why we are building a new stand, and when that's built would be the perfect time to look at moving /expanding the HF. Imagine opening the new stand and at the same time unleashing a bigger/louder HF. What an occasion that would be. Trying to do it now just isn't feasible IMO.

Edited by spartakev2 (06 Sep 2018 11.39am)

 

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Old Chap Flag Orpington 06 Sep 18 11.45am Send a Private Message to Old Chap Add Old Chap as a friend

In the petition it says “and a Palace have yet to win at home”

Suggesting the lack of wins is due to the absence of HF?

 


Trivial fact - Palace used to win 5-1 at least once a season, maybe next season?

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spartakev2 Flag Anerley 06 Sep 18 12.02pm Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by Old Chap

In the petition it says “and a Palace have yet to win at home”

Suggesting the lack of wins is due to the absence of HF?

More to do with a CF whos forgotten how to put the ball in the net.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 06 Sep 18 12.02pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by michaelpearce

yes they have by changing the way they support the team to get what they want. not for any other reason

Or because Parish and the club did nothing but create this situation, which could’ve been avoided if they released the proposals supplied by the HF. Maybe if the club gave it a try they might’ve stayed put in B if the club tried, but they fecked it up instead. Going by the response to the HF statements, proposals and brochure it stood a bell of a better chance than how the club handled it, which was an amateurish joke as per usual.

 


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michaelpearce Flag grays 06 Sep 18 12.11pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Or because Parish and the club did nothing but create this situation, which could’ve been avoided if they released the proposals supplied by the HF. Maybe if the club gave it a try they might’ve stayed put in B if the club tried, but they fecked it up instead. Going by the response to the HF statements, proposals and brochure it stood a bell of a better chance than how the club handled it, which was an amateurish joke as per usual.

so its down to the club how you support the team noooo, it down to the individual how they support the team the best way to get the team to win,Palace through thick and thin, not pick and choose

 

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simonmdt Flag x 06 Sep 18 12.17pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I think the fact that Parish and CPFC have used them in brochures, videos And online promoting the club, match tickets, season tickets and memberships pretty much since they bought the club disproves your opinion that the HF are a financial (business) irrelevance. Your argument using the remaining 25,000 is true, obviously, but actually bollox if you look at it from a real business angle, as Parish has for 8 years.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (06 Sep 2018 9.59am)

Oh dear, oh dear.

a) they are a financial irrelevance, as proved by the original poster is of course true, and not 'actual bollox if you look at it from a real business angle' whatever that is meant to mean.

Seeing as you obviously bunked off most of your GCSE Businees Studies, let me help you, from a real business angle (sic)

What Parish, or mostly likely, the Marketing Director has done is used the HF to help build the CPFC brand.

Now since RMH first attributed a monetary value to their brand on their spreadsheets, a brand can be considerably more valuable than its generic commodity counterpart, but alas, a brand asset i.e. the HF, have no intrinsic financial value to them whatsoever (their value is purely emotional, which of course is not to say, without worth, but I'm digressing from the point

Oh course Parish, or the Marketing Director, was a bit of t*** to attribute their brand to an asset they neither own nor control but they look a positive genius compared to the comments you're leaving here

And you're also on very dodgy grounds if you persist with a financial equation for fans, - purely from looking at it from a real business angle, the fans who are worth more to any club, Palace included , are of course the Corporate ones.

 

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simonmdt Flag x 06 Sep 18 12.20pm

Originally posted by michaelpearce

im from the days of football violence but we still watched the games while trying not to get lumped, and we wasnt there for the punch up we was there to support and watch

Edited by michaelpearce (05 Sep 2018 7.10pm)

Ok, I'll hold my hand up, I was there for the punch up as well, as well as support the team.

 

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Nobbybm Flag Dartford 06 Sep 18 12.22pm Send a Private Message to Nobbybm Add Nobbybm as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Or because Parish and the club did nothing but create this situation, which could’ve been avoided if they released the proposals supplied by the HF. Maybe if the club gave it a try they might’ve stayed put in B if the club tried, but they fecked it up instead. Going by the response to the HF statements, proposals and brochure it stood a bell of a better chance than how the club handled it, which was an amateurish joke as per usual.

There's a few points being missed/ignored though:

1) At the time, the Club was working flat out to get planning for the new stand & this would clearly have an impact on any proposed move around.

2) We weren't exactly safe from relegation which could also have affected the situation.

3) The proposal, in the form it's been released now, could have been made public by the HF to either allay fears or simply clarify all the arguing going on across social media.

It seems to me that the HF & the Club both want the same thing but one wants it immediately & the other sees the problems/bigger picture of such an undertaking.

 


Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

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Aray Flag South London 06 Sep 18 12.30pm Send a Private Message to Aray Add Aray as a friend

It has been said by a few others in this long thread.
The club's infrastructure is pretty crap.

We cant even get the catering right. I received an email around the time of renewing season tickets stating "sorry you're not renewing...."

I couldn't believe it. I'm one of those mugs that has it automatically renew.

What are the chances of the club getting something like this right? Yup - zero.

 

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michaelpearce Flag grays 06 Sep 18 12.35pm

Originally posted by simonmdt

Ok, I'll hold my hand up, I was there for the punch up as well, as well as support the team.

well after the match for me as i had a trek through west ham chelsea spurs oh and millwall fun days still supported the team

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 06 Sep 18 12.41pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by simonmdt

Oh dear, oh dear.

a) they are a financial irrelevance, as proved by the original poster is of course true, and not 'actual bollox if you look at it from a real business angle' whatever that is meant to mean.

Seeing as you obviously bunked off most of your GCSE Businees Studies, let me help you, from a real business angle (sic)

What Parish, or mostly likely, the Marketing Director has done is used the HF to help build the CPFC brand.

Now since RMH first attributed a monetary value to their brand on their spreadsheets, a brand can be considerably more valuable than its generic commodity counterpart, but alas, a brand asset i.e. the HF, have no intrinsic financial value to them whatsoever (their value is purely emotional, which of course is not to say, without worth, but I'm digressing from the point

Oh course Parish, or the Marketing Director, was a bit of t*** to attribute their brand to an asset they neither own nor control but they look a positive genius compared to the comments you're leaving here

And you're also on very dodgy grounds if you persist with a financial equation for fans, - purely from looking at it from a real business angle, the fans who are worth more to any club, Palace included , are of course the Corporate ones.

What a load of verbal diarrhoea. I’m well aware of asset valuations and tangible and important intangible assets. If I wanted to I could consult SSAP’s but that’s just a complete load of flannel with this in mind. Parish, like any business today knows, the importance of growth. Growth, not standing still resting on your laurels. Compare that Jordan buffoon who valued season ticket holders and treated casual fans with contempt and effectively priced them away from attending and what Parish is doing. The value of the HF as a marketing tool is highly valuable and Parish knows it. Businesses thrive and survive by how they plan and grow their markets and marketing plans, not by past and immediate financial reports only, but thanks for the snidely GCSE comment. Wouldn’t expect anything else.

 


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20 Spaces Isnt Enoug Flag Bolton 06 Sep 18 12.51pm Send a Private Message to 20 Spaces Isnt Enoug Add 20 Spaces Isnt Enoug as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave


Exactly.


I disagree.... If I was one of their supporters

I definitely would not want the HF back

and wouldn't sign

 

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