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Hoof Hearted 05 Jun 16 11.02am
Originally posted by nickgusset Yer probably right. However Corbyn I'd imagine,is campaigning on w behalf of what the PLP want. Is there anyone who is 100% in favour of everything 'their' party does? Do the incidents at Broadstairs where so called UKIP supporters hassled disabled kids who were with their parents sit easy with you? Edited by nickgusset (05 Jun 2016 10.50am) No (if it happened)... neither does the situation with Nigel Farage trying to enjoy his Sunday lunch at a pub without your lot abusing him and his family. Cameron and Corbyn aren't subjected to that hate.
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Hoof Hearted 05 Jun 16 11.02am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Yer probably right. However Corbyn I'd imagine,is campaigning on w behalf of what the PLP want.

Is there anyone who is 100% in favour of everything 'their' party does?

Do the incidents at Broadstairs where so called UKIP supporters hassled disabled kids who were with their parents sit easy with you?

Edited by nickgusset (05 Jun 2016 10.50am)

No (if it happened)... neither does the situation with Nigel Farage trying to enjoy his Sunday lunch at a pub without your lot abusing him and his family.

Cameron and Corbyn aren't subjected to that hate.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jun 16 11.06am
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted No (if it happened)... neither does the situation with Nigel Farage trying to enjoy his Sunday lunch at a pub without your lot abusing him and his family. Cameron and Corbyn aren't subjected to that hate. Yes, ambushed in a pub in 'Downe'. Quite despicable behaviour.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jun 16 11.06am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

No (if it happened)... neither does the situation with Nigel Farage trying to enjoy his Sunday lunch at a pub without your lot abusing him and his family.

Cameron and Corbyn aren't subjected to that hate.

Yes, ambushed in a pub in 'Downe'. Quite despicable behaviour.

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Sportyteacher London 05 Jun 16 11.34am
Originally posted by nickgusset Yep. I don't need to besmirch the remain camp, Cameron's doing that by himself! Osborne & Cameron may as well be campaigning for Brexit given the quality of their campaigning that is matched with hyperbole and lies. Leave campaign though have largely adopted same tactics. Conservative Government is a broken party with a leadership contest surely in the offing post June 23rd. Who'd trust both sides trying to come back and rule as one thereafter? (Not that Labour Party is behaving any differently by way of party unity away from EU)
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London 05 Jun 16 11.34am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Yep. I don't need to besmirch the remain camp, Cameron's doing that by himself!

Osborne & Cameron may as well be campaigning for Brexit given the quality of their campaigning that is matched with hyperbole and lies. Leave campaign though have largely adopted same tactics.

Conservative Government is a broken party with a leadership contest surely in the offing post June 23rd. Who'd trust both sides trying to come back and rule as one thereafter? (Not that Labour Party is behaving any differently by way of party unity away from EU)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Jun 16 12.02pm
Originally posted by Willo Yes, ambushed in a pub in 'Downe'. Quite despicable behaviour. Yep, totally wrong.im not going to defend that.
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 05 Jun 16 12.02pm

Originally posted by Willo

Yes, ambushed in a pub in 'Downe'. Quite despicable behaviour.

Yep, totally wrong.im not going to defend that.

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DivingIsNotGood se25 05 Jun 16 9.12pm
Originally posted by Sportyteacher Osborne & Cameron may as well be campaigning for Brexit given the quality of their campaigning that is matched with hyperbole and lies. Leave campaign though have largely adopted same tactics. Conservative Government is a broken party with a leadership contest surely in the offing post June 23rd. Who'd trust both sides trying to come back and rule as one thereafter? (Not that Labour Party is behaving any differently by way of party unity away from EU) Lamont is part of Bilderberg, but yet he is lobbying for brexit? VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again
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se25 05 Jun 16 9.12pm

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Osborne & Cameron may as well be campaigning for Brexit given the quality of their campaigning that is matched with hyperbole and lies. Leave campaign though have largely adopted same tactics.

Lamont is part of Bilderberg, but yet he is lobbying for brexit?

VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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Ouzo Dan Behind you 05 Jun 16 10.41pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted Two observations about that Daily Mail article.... 1, That Eva Van (short) Housen has a lovely pair of norks. 2. The "march" in Bristol of the Far Right anti immigration supporters had 17 people there in total. However, because of the threat of violence from tens of thousands of anti nazi supporters (and other associated left wing anti racist supporters), the centre of Bristol was in lockdown by the Police, costing over £100,000 to whoever is footing the bill, the taxpayers ultimately! [Link] What is it with the Left with their thirst for violence & their utter contempt for democracy & freedom of speech? Edited by Ouzo Dan (05 Jun 2016 10.44pm) The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Ouzo Dan

Behind you 05 Jun 16 10.41pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Two observations about that Daily Mail article....

1, That Eva Van (short) Housen has a lovely pair of norks.

2. The "march" in Bristol of the Far Right anti immigration supporters had 17 people there in total.

However, because of the threat of violence from tens of thousands of anti nazi supporters (and other associated left wing anti racist supporters), the centre of Bristol was in lockdown by the Police, costing over £100,000 to whoever is footing the bill, the taxpayers ultimately!

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What is it with the Left with their thirst for violence & their utter contempt for democracy & freedom of speech?

Edited by Ouzo Dan (05 Jun 2016 10.44pm)

The mountains are calling & I must go.

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 06 Jun 16 10.04am
Originally posted by nickgusset I have been espousing an anti austerity agenda on here for at least 7 years. Now the ideas have entered the mainstream... In fact hundreds of thousands are grateful that their anti austerity beliefs are being echoed by a mainstream party and as such have made the Labour party the party with most paid up members. I believe you are genuinely scared and paranoid of socialism Matthew. Why? Edited by nickgusset (04 Jun 2016 7.17pm) Not being funny, I'd say 2/3rds of the country is f*cking petrified of socialism and rightly so. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Coulsdon 06 Jun 16 10.04am

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Originally posted by nickgusset

I have been espousing an anti austerity agenda on here for at least 7 years. Now the ideas have entered the mainstream...

In fact hundreds of thousands are grateful that their anti austerity beliefs are being echoed by a mainstream party and as such have made the Labour party the party with most paid up members.

I believe you are genuinely scared and paranoid of socialism Matthew. Why?

Edited by nickgusset (04 Jun 2016 7.17pm)

Not being funny, I'd say 2/3rds of the country is f*cking petrified of socialism and rightly so.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 06 Jun 16 10.09am
Did anyone see Prescott on the Politics Show yesterday? I had forgotten how much I dislike him. I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread but I fail to see why politicians are giving the proletariat the choice to decide when they, as elected leaders, should be making the big calls. the dignified don't even enter in the game
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In The Crowd 06 Jun 16 10.09am

Did anyone see Prescott on the Politics Show yesterday? I had forgotten how much I dislike him.

I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread but I fail to see why politicians are giving the proletariat the choice to decide when they, as elected leaders, should be making the big calls.

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 06 Jun 16 10.34am
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Did anyone see Prescott on the Politics Show yesterday? I had forgotten how much I dislike him. I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread but I fail to see why politicians are giving the proletariat the choice to decide when they, as elected leaders, should be making the big calls. Because the people who were voted in to make big calls had it in their manifesto. Otherwise what's the point of their manifesto? The Conservatives would never have had a majority without that pledge, it was politics in action. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Coulsdon 06 Jun 16 10.34am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Did anyone see Prescott on the Politics Show yesterday? I had forgotten how much I dislike him.

I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread but I fail to see why politicians are giving the proletariat the choice to decide when they, as elected leaders, should be making the big calls.

Because the people who were voted in to make big calls had it in their manifesto. Otherwise what's the point of their manifesto? The Conservatives would never have had a majority without that pledge, it was politics in action.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 06 Jun 16 11.02am
Originally posted by Ouzo Dan [Link] What is it with the Left with their thirst for violence & their utter contempt for democracy & freedom of speech? Edited by Ouzo Dan (05 Jun 2016 10.44pm) Well arguably, neither the far left or the far right, are a) pro-democracy or b) pro-freedom of speech. Traditionally speaking - the exceptions really being the libertarians and anarchists (right and left wing anti-authoritarian), who are very pro-free speech. Free speech is a load of old bollocks (its actually quite expensive to have a voice in society - and the idea that all voices are heard is a falicy) and Democracy is a sham anyhow, given constituency seats and the 'cost' of elections, maintains a two party state of elites, who represent corporate interests. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 06 Jun 16 11.02am

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

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What is it with the Left with their thirst for violence & their utter contempt for democracy & freedom of speech?

Edited by Ouzo Dan (05 Jun 2016 10.44pm)

Well arguably, neither the far left or the far right, are a) pro-democracy or b) pro-freedom of speech. Traditionally speaking - the exceptions really being the libertarians and anarchists (right and left wing anti-authoritarian), who are very pro-free speech.

Free speech is a load of old bollocks (its actually quite expensive to have a voice in society - and the idea that all voices are heard is a falicy) and Democracy is a sham anyhow, given constituency seats and the 'cost' of elections, maintains a two party state of elites, who represent corporate interests.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 06 Jun 16 11.08am
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Did anyone see Prescott on the Politics Show yesterday? I had forgotten how much I dislike him. I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread but I fail to see why politicians are giving the proletariat the choice to decide when they, as elected leaders, should be making the big calls. I disagree with this. I like referendums, and see maybe this as the way forward for politics, where in the power for very important decisions and changes, are passed to the population directly. For me, this represents the highest ideals of democracy - the people deciding. I'd like to see the UK devolving power from the House of Commons to the population on a more regular basis. With modern technology, the need for representation in the House is greatly diminished, when the responsibility for voting on motions and policy could be delivered to the people directly. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 06 Jun 16 11.08am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Did anyone see Prescott on the Politics Show yesterday? I had forgotten how much I dislike him.

I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread but I fail to see why politicians are giving the proletariat the choice to decide when they, as elected leaders, should be making the big calls.

I disagree with this. I like referendums, and see maybe this as the way forward for politics, where in the power for very important decisions and changes, are passed to the population directly.

For me, this represents the highest ideals of democracy - the people deciding. I'd like to see the UK devolving power from the House of Commons to the population on a more regular basis. With modern technology, the need for representation in the House is greatly diminished, when the responsibility for voting on motions and policy could be delivered to the people directly.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Kermit8 Hevon 06 Jun 16 11.48am
Interesting development; "Pro-Remain MPs are considering using their Commons majority to keep Britain inside the EU single market if there is a vote for Brexit, the BBC has learned. The MPs fear a post-Brexit government might negotiate a limited free trade deal with the EU, which they say would damage the UK's economy. There is a pro-Remain majority in the House of Commons of 454 MPs to 147. A Vote Leave campaign spokesman said MPs will not be able to "defy the will of the electorate" on key issues. The single market guarantees the free movement of goods, people, services and capital. The BBC has learned pro-Remain MPs would use their voting power in the House of Commons to protect what they see as the economic benefits of a single market, which gives the UK access to 500 million consumers. Staying inside the single market would mean Britain would have to keep its borders open to EU workers and continue paying into EU coffers. They say it would be legitimate for MPs to push for the UK to stay in the single market because the Leave campaign has refused to spell out what trading relationship it wants the UK to have with the EU in the future." BBC Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 06 Jun 16 11.48am

Interesting development;

"Pro-Remain MPs are considering using their Commons majority to keep Britain inside the EU single market if there is a vote for Brexit, the BBC has learned.
The MPs fear a post-Brexit government might negotiate a limited free trade deal with the EU, which they say would damage the UK's economy.
There is a pro-Remain majority in the House of Commons of 454 MPs to 147.
A Vote Leave campaign spokesman said MPs will not be able to "defy the will of the electorate" on key issues.
The single market guarantees the free movement of goods, people, services and capital.
The BBC has learned pro-Remain MPs would use their voting power in the House of Commons to protect what they see as the economic benefits of a single market, which gives the UK access to 500 million consumers.
Staying inside the single market would mean Britain would have to keep its borders open to EU workers and continue paying into EU coffers.

They say it would be legitimate for MPs to push for the UK to stay in the single market because the Leave campaign has refused to spell out what trading relationship it wants the UK to have with the EU in the future."

BBC

Big chest and massive boobs

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