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BlueJay  UK 13 Apr 22 6.00pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
No study has been done to show anything. The problem with covid as well is it's not in any scientists interest to go against it also no one will fund against. Look up the lies the vaccine companies have told and how they manipulated data for there own trials which was not even proper trials to begin with this speaks massive words about them. Many reports of young people have health issues after having vaccine these reports are kept very quiet and will be deemed as invalid due to its by association yet that method is fine when used the other way by these same doctors/scientists. Comparing instances of heart inflammation and the like to studies of other vaccines holds value, and while issues may exist I don't think it's reasonable to write off current research. I'm not sure that anecdotes and 'kept quiet' supersedes it. 11 billion+ vaccines in, I'd say that realistically we're reaching a point where people can be as confident in this vaccine as any other. Ultimately, though can and will have different takes on it. I appreciate that. I'll leave it as that.
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 Stirlingsays  13 Apr 22 8.16pm |
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When it comes to heart inflammation, you read one source and it says one thing and another says different. I'm going to wait for the BMJ on it. In terms of lockdowns, it's telling that inflation is now at a seven year high of 7 percent in the UK......obviously the sanctions over Russia are also going to play a significant role in pushing that much higher. It's notable that Sweden's inflation, who didn't do lockdowns, is at 4.5 percent.
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| cryrst The garden of England 13 Apr 22 8.58pm |
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I saw a bit of a report from Italian TV back in 2015.
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| Mapletree Croydon 13 Apr 22 11.02pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
When it comes to heart inflammation, you read one source and it says one thing and another says different. I'm going to wait for the BMJ on it. In terms of lockdowns, it's telling that inflation is now at a seven year high of 7 percent in the UK......obviously the sanctions over Russia are also going to play a significant role in pushing that much higher. It's notable that Sweden's inflation, who didn't do lockdowns, is at 4.5 percent. It’s also notable that Sweden started with a low inflation rate and has had one for years. The current rate is the highest for three decades. Claiming causality on failure to lock down is spurious and lacking in thoroughness.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Apr 22 2.55am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
It’s also notable that Sweden started with a low inflation rate and has had one for years. The current rate is the highest for three decades. Claiming causality on failure to lock down is spurious and lacking in thoroughness.
All I'll say is good luck with your pro lockdown position in coming debates in future years.
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| eaglesdare 14 Apr 22 10.49am |
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Still delighted I made the informed decision to not be vaccinated.
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Apr 22 11.04am |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Still delighted I made the informed decision to not be vaccinated. No longer on that team! I got my first one yesterday circa 17:00 Edited by Nicholas91 (14 Apr 2022 11.04am)
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| Stirlingsays 14 Apr 22 11.39am |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
No longer on that team! I got my first one yesterday circa 17:00 Edited by Nicholas91 (14 Apr 2022 11.04am) If you were going to have a vaccine for covid, why would you wait until it's at flu strength? Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Apr 2022 11.44am)
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| eaglesdare 14 Apr 22 12.25pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
No longer on that team! I got my first one yesterday circa 17:00 Edited by Nicholas91 (14 Apr 2022 11.04am) Got to do whats best for you at the end of the day. I fully support anyone who gets it and anyone who chooses not to!
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Apr 22 12.42pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
If you were going to have a vaccine for covid, why would you wait until it's at flu strength? Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Apr 2022 11.44am) Two reasons Sterling: 1. I was in hospital for a very, very long time during the whole vaccination roll out 2, I desperately want to go on holiday this summer, actually it will technically be my honeymoon. Seemed fair enough to me.
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 SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 14 Apr 22 12.50pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
If you were going to have a vaccine for covid, why would you wait until it's at flu strength? Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Apr 2022 11.44am) This is still very much up for debate. It's certainly flu strength for relatively healthy or non-susceptible vaccinated or pre-infected individuals. This current strain is not a direct derivative of the previous ones – the more I read the more the 'weakens as it mutates' theory is questionable in this current scenario. Edited by SW19 CPFC (14 Apr 2022 12.50pm)
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| BlueJay UK 14 Apr 22 12.55pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Two reasons Sterling: 1. I was in hospital for a very, very long time during the whole vaccination roll out 2, I desperately want to go on holiday this summer, actually it will technically be my honeymoon. Seemed fair enough to me. Sorry, wishing to protect your health or enjoy life via travel are not good enough reasons. Only ideology matters!!!
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