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The groover Flag Danbury 12 Mar 22 9.30am Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by W12

So lets sum up:

PCR tests = bollocks - Not so. They work perfectly well. My company makes them 99% accurate.

Cases = irrelevant - The original strain was far more
dangerous than the following two. So again this is incorrect.

Excess deaths = no - Excess deaths since the start of the
pandemic are running at 125,000, so again incorrect.

Natural immunity = ignored - Natural immunity only works for the current variant. But its not ignored as the covid passport has a section for it.

Early treatment = ignored - Not sure what you expect. Should
everyone that gets it be treated just in case?

Asymptomatic transmission = bollocks - Not bollocks at all. I
work in hospitals and this is the biggest issue they have for transmission to staff. People that appear healthy but have it.
Everyone that is admitted is tested as a matter of course.

Lockdowns = don't work - Again completely incorrect. The current transmission figures prove that.

Masks = don't work - This is the biggest of all your wrong statements. As I said I work in different hospitals everyday. Not only did I avoided the original and omicron I haven't had a cold since nov 2019. I caught delta at the dentist where I couldn't wear a mask and had my mouth open for 20 minutes. It depends on the mask. FFP3 amazing. FFP2 really good, blue theatre masks. OK. Cloth masks. Not so good.

We spent £100's of billions on the above (at least £400b) and have nothing to show for it. Ask yourself how it could possibly cost £37b for "track and trace"? That's £37,000,000,000 -

I'm still getting pinged. 12 times since xmas. Due to my FFP2 mask I've not got it. Go figure.

And only now everyone around us is getting sick or dying and if you deny that you are either a hermit or you are lying to yourself. Say what! Where do you get this from? You said that we have no excess deaths! Which is it?

I would like to ask your qualifications for posting this utter drivel? Because hospital staff get very angry when someone spouts this s***e.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 12 Mar 22 9.36am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

I would like to ask your qualifications for posting this utter drivel? Because hospital staff get very angry when someone spouts this s***e.

It appears that now W12 has been found out as a Russian sleeper intent on fomenting distrust and false information, W12 has left us.

Shame Stirling didn’t see him coming and befriended him.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 12 Mar 22 11.13am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

It appears that now W12 has been found out as a Russian sleeper intent on fomenting distrust and false information, W12 has left us.

Shame Stirling didn’t see him coming and befriended him.

You make it sound like a bad thing.

I'm thinking of buggering off too.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Mar 22 11.24am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You make it sound like a bad thing.

I'm thinking of buggering off too.

In my view HOL would be poorer for your absence.
You are clearly a savant with a stellar presence.

 

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The Dolphin Flag 12 Mar 22 12.46pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

I contracted it recently - looks like it was at the Stoke game.
Relatively mild but I know of at least 8 other people with it as well which is the first time I have known of so many people -personally - since it all started.

 

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Grumbles 12 Mar 22 6.31pm Send a Private Message to Grumbles Add Grumbles as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

In my view HOL would be poorer for your absence.
You are clearly a savant with a stellar presence.

Harsh

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 12 Mar 22 7.12pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

I would like to ask your qualifications for posting this utter drivel? Because hospital staff get very angry when someone spouts this s***e.


It's not drivel most of those points are valid.

Hospital staff yes very educated people who wear surgical masks which they keep touching and will remove then put the same mask back on.

UK hospitals are a joke for infection control and a lot of the staff are either too lazy or have no clue.

This was the first thing my wife noticed when she came to this country and yes she is well qualified to do so she has over 30 years experience working with tropical/infectious diseases having also worked on the front line in Asia with many outbreaks.

Edited by grumpymort (12 Mar 2022 7.13pm)

 


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glazedallover Flag Allier 12 Mar 22 7.15pm Send a Private Message to glazedallover Add glazedallover as a friend

another Russian sleeper.........

 

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The groover Flag Danbury 12 Mar 22 7.37pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


It's not drivel most of those points are valid.

Hospital staff yes very educated people who wear surgical masks which they keep touching and will remove then put the same mask back on.

UK hospitals are a joke for infection control and a lot of the staff are either too lazy or have no clue.

This was the first thing my wife noticed when she came to this country and yes she is well qualified to do so she has over 30 years experience working with tropical/infectious diseases having also worked on the front line in Asia with many outbreaks.

Edited by grumpymort (12 Mar 2022 7.13pm)


It depends on the management of said hospital. As I said I visit dozens of hospitals. Royal London is pants. St barts is like fort knox. Most of the hospitals outside London are very good. As are the vast majority of staff. If you are at one hospital you just see that one.

Most of the hospitals that make a poor show re. covid are in london.


 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 12 Mar 22 7.53pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Hospitals vary with the number and quality of the Temporary workers they employ. This includes nurses. Nurses that English isn't their first language, or their home country work to different standards, or they are just ignorant or lacking proper training. I think a lot of Londoners have had bad experiences from London hospitals. Hardly surprising when you think of the high concentration of the population.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 12 Mar 22 8.06pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by The groover


It depends on the management of said hospital. As I said I visit dozens of hospitals. Royal London is pants. St barts is like fort knox. Most of the hospitals outside London are very good. As are the vast majority of staff. If you are at one hospital you just see that one.

Most of the hospitals that make a poor show re. covid are in london.



Nice excuse a shame its 100% BS

 


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The groover Flag Danbury 12 Mar 22 9.04pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


Nice excuse a shame its 100% BS

I love a well reasoned and nicely laid out response...........

Got no answer, call it BS.

 

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