I didn’t criticise the article if you read my post. I asked why just 1 day ago Farage was called far right. In this article he isn’t. Why not was my question !

I think willo that the Tory party are not even close to the right atm. This does indeed place them as left of centre. Scared to upset people in the minority ( not colour or religeon) whilst alienating the likes of me and other traditional tories. The message from some losing tories is to get more central and come away from the right side of politics. Than in itself will alienate even more and is a complete joke !

Thanks matov. Not overly eloquent but the reason they got ironed out. Reform offer right wing politics. That’s not being a nazi, just getting people to realise s*** happens and just sometimes it’s your own fault, not rubbing their back and saying there there never mind blame someone else. Ffs yes help the people that need help but don’t give everyone the option to go down the mental health route because they f***ed up. Alongside other right wing policies like getting rewarded with money for effort and actually keeping most of it. The karma is coming and my pain will not be as bad knowing that someone who voted for these leeches will feel the same

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A small number of non conservatives managed to destroy a majority from within, for me no sympathy.

May see some defections to Reform, Conservative Party has nothing to offer Reform peeps now

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

A couple of random thoughts from the fall out.

1. I must admit I was surprised by the number of Lib Dem Mps I don't think they have a good leader or even coherent policies but obviously many people do.

2. The Greens are celebrating their 4 MPs but this is one I called right. On the various environmental threads I have previously said the Greens never get more than 7% of the vote and I was bang on. So although they have done better this time with their MPs they did not increase their share of the vote.

3. I think the Tories still do not understand what has happened. Plenty of talk about needing a leader to retake the centre ground from Labour, they just don't get it.

It would not surprise me if they elect a new leader in the same mould as the last 4/5 . Perhaps it will take another whooping at the polls before they finally wake up and realise the answer is not to be a pale copy of labour but to have their own policies.

One more point

Yes the Greens are a dangerous commodity. Would probably dish out grants to people who glue themselves to the road, but one policy that Nick Robinson highlighted on his one-on-one interview with the Green co-leader, is that they would ban petrol and diesel cars from 2035. That’s not banning the purchase of those cars, it’s the use of those cars after 2035. As Nick Robinson pointed out that could be up 30 million cars…

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.