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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Aug 23 12.38pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I doubt whether many died of Covid 19 alone. It makes total sense that those with comorbidities will be the ones to suffer most. So recording those dying with Covid seems the only sensible way to record and measure the trends. Nobody has been conned by our health authorities. That's just another wicked conspiracy theory. These are people trying to serve the people in the best way they can. Why on earth would they seek to con them? In Ireland it was fever pitch; it was frankly ludicrous. It wasn't quite as bad in the UK. Our national broadcaster had a constant countdown of deaths on the screen with two daily updates whilst the screen itself was yellow and black - the colour of the warning signs. It really didn't need to be like that. Our restrictions also lasted the longest in Europe I believe. Two years of the strictest restrictions. This is something you didn't see or experience. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Aug 23 12.38pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I doubt whether many died of Covid 19 alone. It makes total sense that those with comorbidities will be the ones to suffer most. So recording those dying with Covid seems the only sensible way to record and measure the trends.

Nobody has been conned by our health authorities. That's just another wicked conspiracy theory. These are people trying to serve the people in the best way they can. Why on earth would they seek to con them?

In Ireland it was fever pitch; it was frankly ludicrous. It wasn't quite as bad in the UK. Our national broadcaster had a constant countdown of deaths on the screen with two daily updates whilst the screen itself was yellow and black - the colour of the warning signs. It really didn't need to be like that. Our restrictions also lasted the longest in Europe I believe. Two years of the strictest restrictions. This is something you didn't see or experience.

Red and Blue Army!

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 23 12.44pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC For your own sake and from personal experience, I honestly implore you not to take any more boosters. I know you're quite old and have had illnesses but the current COVID is a sniffly cold and far less risk than the vaccines currently. I'm not some anti vaccine person - just this vaccine from the things I've witnessed and experienced personally. My friend had no real reactions to previous boosters but sometimes they change them and I'm presuming that happened this time. I honestly haven't mentioned this to him. He might die - if he survives I'm going to have to for my own conscience. I had very bad allergic reactions to the vaccine so really can't take any more anyway. I was severely ill with anaphylactic shock. But I just considered that unlucky and part of the risk. As I say, with current COVID it's not worth it. You're not going to die of a cold but you could get seriously ill from a booster. Take the flu jab by all means, take what you like. You don't need a booster. I know you mean well but having a Covid booster is no different to having the annual flu booster. All it does is address the concerns produced by the most prevalent variant. Flu viruses evolve. So does Covid 19. This will be part of our lives forever now and will probably settle into an annual trip to receive both the flu and Covid at the same time, one in each arm. I am much more scared of catching either flu or Covid at my age than of having a vaccine against them. Covid might be not that serious for many, but nor is flu. People though who are unwell for other reasons can be tipped over the top by either. That's not going to be me. I have too much to do and a wife who needs me. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 23 12.44pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

For your own sake and from personal experience, I honestly implore you not to take any more boosters. I know you're quite old and have had illnesses but the current COVID is a sniffly cold and far less risk than the vaccines currently. I'm not some anti vaccine person - just this vaccine from the things I've witnessed and experienced personally.
My friend had no real reactions to previous boosters but sometimes they change them and I'm presuming that happened this time. I honestly haven't mentioned this to him. He might die - if he survives I'm going to have to for my own conscience.
I had very bad allergic reactions to the vaccine so really can't take any more anyway. I was severely ill with anaphylactic shock. But I just considered that unlucky and part of the risk. As I say, with current COVID it's not worth it. You're not going to die of a cold but you could get seriously ill from a booster.
Take the flu jab by all means, take what you like. You don't need a booster.

I know you mean well but having a Covid booster is no different to having the annual flu booster. All it does is address the concerns produced by the most prevalent variant. Flu viruses evolve. So does Covid 19. This will be part of our lives forever now and will probably settle into an annual trip to receive both the flu and Covid at the same time, one in each arm.

I am much more scared of catching either flu or Covid at my age than of having a vaccine against them. Covid might be not that serious for many, but nor is flu. People though who are unwell for other reasons can be tipped over the top by either. That's not going to be me. I have too much to do and a wife who needs me.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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eaglesdare 03 Aug 23 12.45pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC In Ireland it was fever pitch; it was frankly ludicrous. It wasn't quite as bad in the UK. Our national broadcaster had a constant countdown of deaths on the screen with two daily updates whilst the screen itself was yellow and black - the colour of the warning signs. It really didn't need to be like that. Our restrictions also lasted the longest in Europe I believe. Two years of the strictest restrictions. This is something you didn't see or experience. I remember this I left the country with my laptop during it all when they introduced the covid certs. I am only recently back with the slow return to the office this year.
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03 Aug 23 12.45pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I remember this I left the country with my laptop during it all when they introduced the covid certs. I am only recently back with the slow return to the office this year.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Aug 23 12.49pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I know you mean well but having a Covid booster is no different to having the annual flu booster. All it does is address the concerns produced by the most prevalent variant. Flu viruses evolve. So does Covid 19. This will be part of our lives forever now and will probably settle into an annual trip to receive both the flu and Covid at the same time, one in each arm. I am much more scared of catching either flu or Covid at my age than of having a vaccine against them. Covid might be not that serious for many, but nor is flu. People though who are unwell for other reasons can be tipped over the top by either. That's not going to be me. I have too much to do and a wife who needs me. Ok, at least with the booster make sure you get the one you've already been getting. Ask specifically. I can't see it doing sudden harm if it hasn't already. Being scared is fine and natural just do have some caution about what's being injected into you too. You can have a serious allergic reaction - believe me you don't want that. And, yes, I understand that these things happen. I'm just giving my honest advice - not political, human to human. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Aug 23 12.49pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Ok, at least with the booster make sure you get the one you've already been getting. Ask specifically. I can't see it doing sudden harm if it hasn't already. Being scared is fine and natural just do have some caution about what's being injected into you too. You can have a serious allergic reaction - believe me you don't want that. And, yes, I understand that these things happen. I'm just giving my honest advice - not political, human to human.

Red and Blue Army!

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Eden Eagle Kent 03 Aug 23 1.13pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I am sorry you had a heart attack, but can they happen, to anyone. It's also true that there is a significant rise in the numbers at the moment. All of which can be explained totally rationally and without jumping to conclusions. To see the vaccines as the cause is evidence free assertion. It's dangerous fear mongering. 2 + 2 always equals 4. Never 10 just because you think it might. So to call for more dialogue to investigate a possible link between the surge in cardiac events and the “vaccine” is “dangerous fear mongering”…? Most open minded people would look at the number of previously healthy people suffering heart attacks due to blood clots and question what might be the cause. I reiterate that I will not be getting any further Covid “vaccines”.
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Kent 03 Aug 23 1.13pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am sorry you had a heart attack, but can they happen, to anyone. It's also true that there is a significant rise in the numbers at the moment.

All of which can be explained totally rationally and without jumping to conclusions. To see the vaccines as the cause is evidence free assertion. It's dangerous fear mongering.

2 + 2 always equals 4. Never 10 just because you think it might.

So to call for more dialogue to investigate a possible link between the surge in cardiac events and the “vaccine” is “dangerous fear mongering”…?

Most open minded people would look at the number of previously healthy people suffering heart attacks due to blood clots and question what might be the cause.

I reiterate that I will not be getting any further Covid “vaccines”.

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eaglesdare 03 Aug 23 1.22pm
Originally posted by Eden Eagle So to call for more dialogue to investigate a possible link between the surge in cardiac events and the “vaccine” is “dangerous fear mongering”…? Most open minded people would look at the number of previously healthy people suffering heart attacks due to blood clots and question what might be the cause. I reiterate that I will not be getting any further Covid “vaccines”. Hilarious isint it!
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03 Aug 23 1.22pm

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

So to call for more dialogue to investigate a possible link between the surge in cardiac events and the “vaccine” is “dangerous fear mongering”…?

Most open minded people would look at the number of previously healthy people suffering heart attacks due to blood clots and question what might be the cause.

I reiterate that I will not be getting any further Covid “vaccines”.

Hilarious isint it!

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 23 2.10pm
Originally posted by Eden Eagle So to call for more dialogue to investigate a possible link between the surge in cardiac events and the “vaccine” is “dangerous fear mongering”…? Most open minded people would look at the number of previously healthy people suffering heart attacks due to blood clots and question what might be the cause. I reiterate that I will not be getting any further Covid “vaccines”. Open-minded people do look into these things. Then they discover that those with genuine understanding can offer the reassurances they need and don't jump to conclusions based on prejudices. As you do when you say you won't be getting any more vaccines. You are not open-minded at all. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 23 2.10pm

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

So to call for more dialogue to investigate a possible link between the surge in cardiac events and the “vaccine” is “dangerous fear mongering”…?

Most open minded people would look at the number of previously healthy people suffering heart attacks due to blood clots and question what might be the cause.

I reiterate that I will not be getting any further Covid “vaccines”.

Open-minded people do look into these things. Then they discover that those with genuine understanding can offer the reassurances they need and don't jump to conclusions based on prejudices.

As you do when you say you won't be getting any more vaccines. You are not open-minded at all.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 23 2.15pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC In Ireland it was fever pitch; it was frankly ludicrous. It wasn't quite as bad in the UK. Our national broadcaster had a constant countdown of deaths on the screen with two daily updates whilst the screen itself was yellow and black - the colour of the warning signs. It really didn't need to be like that. Our restrictions also lasted the longest in Europe I believe. Two years of the strictest restrictions. This is something you didn't see or experience. That's just you objecting to the restrictions placed upon society by a government facing a new and poorly understood challenge. More caution was considered a better option than not enough. You disagree. That's OK but it has nothing to do with the efficiency, or otherwise, of the vaccines. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 23 2.15pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

That's just you objecting to the restrictions placed upon society by a government facing a new and poorly understood challenge. More caution was considered a better option than not enough.

You disagree. That's OK but it has nothing to do with the efficiency, or otherwise, of the vaccines.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Mattconrov 03 Aug 23 2.15pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Open-minded people do look into these things. Then they discover that those with genuine understanding can offer the reassurances they need and don't jump to conclusions based on prejudices. As you do when you say you won't be getting any more vaccines. You are not open-minded at all. Pfizer said the cheques in the post Mr Wisbech " You're not laughing now are you". Nigel Farage 2016.
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03 Aug 23 2.15pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Open-minded people do look into these things. Then they discover that those with genuine understanding can offer the reassurances they need and don't jump to conclusions based on prejudices.

As you do when you say you won't be getting any more vaccines. You are not open-minded at all.

Pfizer said the cheques in the post Mr Wisbech

" You're not laughing now are you". Nigel Farage 2016.

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Mattconrov 03 Aug 23 2.29pm
So what we do know about these experimental Mrna jabs? We know that Pfizer were made to release the trial papers.From these we could see that there was a strong risk of heart problems. A whole myriad of problems. Plus 100s of other issues hidden from us. The jab was experimental. The technology may have been known. But certainly not perfected. In a trial with animals a few years back many of the animals died. We've never had a respiratory vaccine before and with good reason. Robert Malone the co creator of this technology has been very critical of it. So to Mike yeadon formally of Pfizer. In particular the way the spike protein acts on the body. We were not given informed consent. Or do you think we were Wisbech? I haven't seen where it was given. How is anyone going to reassure someone on this obvious link between jabs and heart problems. A nice cup of tea and soothing chat? " You're not laughing now are you". Nigel Farage 2016.
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03 Aug 23 2.29pm

So what we do know about these experimental Mrna jabs?

We know that Pfizer were made to release the trial papers.From these we could see that there was a strong risk of heart problems. A whole myriad of problems. Plus 100s of other issues hidden from us.

The jab was experimental. The technology may have been known. But certainly not perfected. In a trial with animals a few years back many of the animals died. We've never had a respiratory vaccine before and with good reason.

Robert Malone the co creator of this technology has been very critical of it. So to Mike yeadon formally of Pfizer. In particular the way the spike protein acts on the body. We were not given informed consent. Or do you think we were Wisbech? I haven't seen where it was given.

How is anyone going to reassure someone on this obvious link between jabs and heart problems. A nice cup of tea and soothing chat?

" You're not laughing now are you". Nigel Farage 2016.

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Teddy Eagle 03 Aug 23 2.30pm
Up until the 1950s doctors were advertising the benefits of cigarettes. Doubtless they'd have got the same backing since doctors are "the experts" and at the time there was no concrete proof to disprove them.
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Teddy Eagle

03 Aug 23 2.30pm

Up until the 1950s doctors were advertising the benefits of cigarettes. Doubtless they'd have got the same backing since doctors are "the experts" and at the time there was no concrete proof to disprove them.

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Eden Eagle Kent 03 Aug 23 2.32pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Open-minded people do look into these things. Then they discover that those with genuine understanding can offer the reassurances they need and don't jump to conclusions based on prejudices. As you do when you say you won't be getting any more vaccines. You are not open-minded at all. “Prejudices”? A fit and healthy person having a heart attack through blood clots should be enough to ask questions but there is no point debating with a troll like you Wisbech.
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Kent 03 Aug 23 2.32pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Open-minded people do look into these things. Then they discover that those with genuine understanding can offer the reassurances they need and don't jump to conclusions based on prejudices.

As you do when you say you won't be getting any more vaccines. You are not open-minded at all.

“Prejudices”? A fit and healthy person having a heart attack through blood clots should be enough to ask questions but there is no point debating with a troll like you Wisbech.

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