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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 03 Jan 21 11.16pm |
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Originally posted by AuntyAnne70
Or that they believe in what they are saying! Perhaps!
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 tonymikejoe  UK 03 Jan 21 11.31pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Your claims were all dismantled and proved incorrect in the first 75 pages of this thread! Might I suggest you go back and read them. In short these protests have nothing whatsoever to do with the politics of the group who use the BLM name. The FA, the players, the PFA, Southgate and Kane have all said so. Openly and conclusively.
Their actions speak louder than words. It's like throwing a Hitler salute and shouting 'Sieg Heil' but when confronted claiming: "No, I'm not supporting the holocaust / hate / war / mass murder. I'm a big fan of the autobahns and VW Beetle." Edited by tonymikejoe (03 Jan 2021 11.37pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Jan 21 11.46pm |
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Originally posted by tonymikejoe
Their actions speak louder than words. It's like throwing a Hitler salute and shouting 'Sieg Heil' but when confronted claiming: "No, I'm not supporting the holocaust / hate / war / mass murder. I'm a big fan of the autobahns and VW Beetle." Edited by tonymikejoe (03 Jan 2021 11.37pm) When "taking the knee" predates BLM and why the players are doing it has been explained, at length and in detail specifically to distance it from any kind of political connections, to continue to accuse them is really pretty insulting. Your analogy is garbage. No-one could deny what throwing a Hitler salute AND shouting "Sieg Heil" conveys. It's unambiguous. Unfortunately, the term BLM is ambiguous. Hence the need for clarification.
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Teddy Eagle  03 Jan 21 11.58pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
When "taking the knee" predates BLM and why the players are doing it has been explained, at length and in detail specifically to distance it from any kind of political connections, to continue to accuse them is really pretty insulting. Your analogy is garbage. No-one could deny what throwing a Hitler salute AND shouting "Sieg Heil" conveys. It's unambiguous. Unfortunately, the term BLM is ambiguous. Hence the need for clarification. Kneeling doesn’t predate BLM. It came three years later.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Jan 21 12.23am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Kneeling doesn’t predate BLM. It came three years later. We've already been through this! Taking the knee as a symbol of the "Black Lives Matter" protests against racism and discrimination grew out of George Floyd's death. The symbol was copied from Colin Kaepernick's protest in 2016. That's it's root in this context.
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| Teddy Eagle 04 Jan 21 12.28am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
We've already been through this! Taking the knee as a symbol of the "Black Lives Matter" protests against racism and discrimination grew out of George Floyd's death. The symbol was copied from Colin Kaepernick's protest in 2016. That's it's root in this context. So how does taking a knee predate BLM? That was your claim.
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| Stirlingsays 04 Jan 21 5.05am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Seeking rational reasons for taking actions which result in the least amount of harm is not to apologise for anything. Criminals deserve to be detected and punished. Those not involved deserve to be protected. Or are those who protest peacefully also criminals in your mind? Has it crossed your mind that there might be any truth in the suggestions that the real problems were caused by right-wing infiltrators seeking to create confrontations? I know the Proud Boys have had Antifa infiltration issues so I have little doubt that it also happens in reverse. However, it would be minor on the scale of these organisations and more about intelligence gathering. But I wouldn't rule out some violence. Still, it wouldn't be against what Antifa/Blm have been pushing anyway. The Democrats didn't name and criticise these organisations before the elections and to see it now is transparent. They are criminal and their apologists are part of the problem.
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cryrst  The garden of England 04 Jan 21 5.59am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
He did more than just threaten! He sent federal law enforcement officers to several cities, against the wishes of the Governors. I have no idea what you mean by " a cloaked part of antifa". So far as I am aware antifa has no overarching organisational structure. It is simply an idea with loose groupings of like-minded people. Most Democrats, and indeed many decent Republicans, are going to harbour anti-fascist sentiments. Which is all that lies at the heart of antifa. That some on the fringes use that sentiment as an excuse to promote either violence, criminal activity or extreme left-wing views is very regrettable. That doesn't though mean that everyone involved can be tarnished with the same brush. I would like you to read back your last line 100 times and remember it when writing about other political stuff! Maybe not all of UKIP or the proud boys or brexiteers are racist. Edited by cryrst (04 Jan 2021 6.01am)
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| Stirlingsays 04 Jan 21 7.46am |
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Late 1940s: 'You need our labour' Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2021 7.48am)
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 Hrolf The Ganger 04 Jan 21 9.21am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Seeking rational reasons for taking actions which result in the least amount of harm is not to apologise for anything. Criminals deserve to be detected and punished. Those not involved deserve to be protected. Or are those who protest peacefully also criminals in your mind? Has it crossed your mind that there might be any truth in the suggestions that the real problems were caused by right-wing infiltrators seeking to create confrontations? Taxi for Wisbech.
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| Teddy Eagle 04 Jan 21 9.52am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Seeking rational reasons for taking actions which result in the least amount of harm is not to apologise for anything. Criminals deserve to be detected and punished. Those not involved deserve to be protected. Or are those who protest peacefully also criminals in your mind? Has it crossed your mind that there might be any truth in the suggestions that the real problems were caused by right-wing infiltrators seeking to create confrontations? Following your contention that census takers were working to an agenda this looks like one of the conspiracy theories you’re so quick to mock.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 04 Jan 21 10.29am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So how does taking a knee predate BLM? That was your claim. No point Teddy, you’ll never get a straight answer. If he thinks he’s right (which he does all the time) then he will literally make up anything to try and support his argument. He reminds me a little of the Python right room for an argument sketch. He is the contradiction.
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