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 Mapletree  Croydon 02 Mar 22 10.42pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
The report saying that that out of 42086 recipients of the trial vaccine that there was 1223 fatalities...... Media won't report on this tho they have a smoke screen in ww3 It is this kind of stupidity that really crawls up my nose and dies. Look at the report properly will you. And see if you can work out the appropriate numerator and denominator.
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| W12 03 Mar 22 7.06am | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I ignored it because it doesn’t make sense. Your point was, presumably, that now there is a bigger global news story, that Covid no longer matters or even exists (“it’s a lot of bollocks”?) - I supplied an example, of which there are many, of how impactful Covid remains in some parts of the world. I have colleagues and many clients in Hong Kong who are all saying the same thing about how bad it is over there now, but you believe they are all lying because... China. Nope, I sent you a link to remind you of all the now obviously fake propaganda videos we got from China of people dropping dead in the street that kicked all this crap off. Your colleagues in Hong Kong are almost certainly exposed to the same propaganda as we are. Most people never question it.
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| W12 03 Mar 22 7.19am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
It is this kind of stupidity that really crawls up my nose and dies. Look at the report properly will you. And see if you can work out the appropriate numerator and denominator. I believe the report shows there were 1223 deaths out of however many people received the vaccine during that period. Based on the fact that these is generally at least 10x underreporting that should have seen the vaccine rollout dead in the water. For previous vaccines a handful of deaths would have been enough especially with no long term safety data. It’s still not a vaccine by the way. It’s still amazes me why people want to defend these pharmaceutical products by the way. I guess if you already injected that s*** into your are you have a vested interest.
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| W12 03 Mar 22 7.40am | |
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By the way that document is clearly designed to obfuscate and confuse. Why would we even allow a pharmaceutical company to punish their own safely data in a sane world?
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cryrst  The garden of England 03 Mar 22 8.28am |
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Well it's still out there. Tested positive last night and feel a bit blurrgh. Masked up indoors and got my own towel etc.
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| W12 03 Mar 22 8.38am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Well it's still out there. Tested positive last night and feel a bit blurrgh. Masked up indoors and got my own towel etc. So the vaccine went well for you then? I would be looking to take a D Dimer test if I were you.
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| cryrst The garden of England 03 Mar 22 8.56am |
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Originally posted by W12
So the vaccine went well for you then? I would be looking to take a D Dimer test if I were you. Where did it say the vaccine stopped you getting covid.
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 03 Mar 22 10.18am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Where did it say the vaccine stopped you getting covid. I tested positive last Monday as did my wife. She was/is immunised but I am not (was in hospital long term for non-COVID related illness, didn't get vaccine). I have remained 'asymptomatic' and she was slightly ill but she was negative last Thursday, I did my most recent test yesterday and was still positive (faint line). I am circumstantially un-vaccinated, not through protest or choice, and whilst I have been asymptomatic I am guessing the wife has recovered much quicker due to having her jabs. Maybe she had it a bit longer and just took a while to infect me! Not making any great point, just thought it may add perspective as to the reason to get vaccinated. Perhaps because of my previous illness I have a white blood cell count through the roof, which has given me better defence (still smoking btw) but I feel stupid even typing that as 'I aint no doctor!' Either way, I'll rejoice at a 'negative result' but still plan to get vaccinated in the future. Also, finally, I would feel slightly stupid happily making and puffing on roll-ups, knocking back a double Vodka and then eating dominoes whilst watching the Palace on TV, but refusing to get a vaccine, against a deadly illmess, as I 'don't know what's in it'. If anybody wanted to poison/kill me a Sainsburys 'meal deal' would be far a more effective vessel I'd suggest.
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 grumpymort  US/Thailand/UK 03 Mar 22 1.04pm |
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Originally posted by W12
I believe the report shows there were 1223 deaths out of however many people received the vaccine during that period. Based on the fact that these is generally at least 10x underreporting that should have seen the vaccine rollout dead in the water. For previous vaccines a handful of deaths would have been enough especially with no long term safety data. It’s still not a vaccine by the way. It’s still amazes me why people want to defend these pharmaceutical products by the way. I guess if you already injected that s*** into your are you have a vested interest.
You are putting all of the claimed vaccines into the same groups do you not understand you can get ones which do not use what you are complaining about Novavax is one of them it doesn't use mRNA. I agree with the bottom part it is not only these injections but many other medicines. Originally posted by Nicholas91
I tested positive last Monday as did my wife. She was/is immunised but I am not (was in hospital long term for non-COVID related illness, didn't get vaccine). I have remained 'asymptomatic' and she was slightly ill but she was negative last Thursday, I did my most recent test yesterday and was still positive (faint line). I am circumstantially un-vaccinated, not through protest or choice, and whilst I have been asymptomatic I am guessing the wife has recovered much quicker due to having her jabs. Maybe she had it a bit longer and just took a while to infect me! Not making any great point, just thought it may add perspective as to the reason to get vaccinated. Perhaps because of my previous illness I have a white blood cell count through the roof, which has given me better defence (still smoking btw) but I feel stupid even typing that as 'I aint no doctor!' Either way, I'll rejoice at a 'negative result' but still plan to get vaccinated in the future. Also, finally, I would feel slightly stupid happily making and puffing on roll-ups, knocking back a double Vodka and then eating dominoes whilst watching the Palace on TV, but refusing to get a vaccine, against a deadly illmess, as I 'don't know what's in it'. If anybody wanted to poison/kill me a Sainsburys 'meal deal' would be far a more effective vessel I'd suggest.
You are comparing two people who are nothing a like also you described you have had health issues this will slow down recovery by itself plus many other factors come into play. Having a high white count does not mean you have better defense who told you this? Nice to hear you are both fine. The virus hasn't got you but a diet like that will in time
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 03 Mar 22 1.18pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
You are comparing two people who are nothing a like also you described you have had health issues this will slow down recovery by itself plus many other factors come into play. Having a high white count does not mean you have better defense who told you this? Nice to hear you are both fine. The virus hasn't got you but a diet like that will in time "Perhaps because of my previous illness I have a white blood cell count through the roof, which has given me better defence (still smoking btw) but I feel stupid even typing that as 'I aint no doctor'" I apologise but I cannot make sense of 'That assumption is incorrect it has nothing to do with the vaccine between you two.' Or 'You are comparing two people who are nothing a like' . Maybe I'm just having a 'slow day' or was incorrect in stating that I am 'asymptomatic'. If you could clarify further I'd be grateful but don't worry if you can't be bothered I am not really either lol
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| W12 03 Mar 22 1.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I tested positive last Monday as did my wife. She was/is immunised but I am not (was in hospital long term for non-COVID related illness, didn't get vaccine). I have remained 'asymptomatic' and she was slightly ill but she was negative last Thursday, I did my most recent test yesterday and was still positive (faint line). I am circumstantially un-vaccinated, not through protest or choice, and whilst I have been asymptomatic I am guessing the wife has recovered much quicker due to having her jabs. Maybe she had it a bit longer and just took a while to infect me! Not making any great point, just thought it may add perspective as to the reason to get vaccinated. Perhaps because of my previous illness I have a white blood cell count through the roof, which has given me better defence (still smoking btw) but I feel stupid even typing that as 'I aint no doctor!' Either way, I'll rejoice at a 'negative result' but still plan to get vaccinated in the future. Also, finally, I would feel slightly stupid happily making and puffing on roll-ups, knocking back a double Vodka and then eating dominoes whilst watching the Palace on TV, but refusing to get a vaccine, against a deadly illmess, as I 'don't know what's in it'. If anybody wanted to poison/kill me a Sainsburys 'meal deal' would be far a more effective vessel I'd suggest. What I'm reading above is that your wife got injected and got sick but you despite being unhealthy didn't get injected and didn't get sick. All your other assumptions have been given to you by what you hear in the media propaganda and conversations with others (who have been subject to the same propaganda) that have re-enforced the same view. All you would need to do would be some cursory research around the "tests" to understand that they cannot detect an active virus and have a very high rate of false positives. But very few people do and get angry when you suggest this like you are attacking their entire world view. Bottom line is that if we had been in a pandemic there would have been significant excess mortality and there hasn't been and nobody can explain this.
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 03 Mar 22 2.06pm |
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Originally posted by W12
What I'm reading above is that your wife got injected and got sick but you despite being unhealthy didn't get injected and didn't get sick. All your other assumptions have been given to you by what you hear in the media propaganda and conversations with others (who have been subject to the same propaganda) that have re-enforced the same view. All you would need to do would be some cursory research around the "tests" to understand that they cannot detect an active virus and have a very high rate of false positives. But very few people do and get angry when you suggest this like you are attacking their entire world view. Bottom line is that if we had been in a pandemic there would have been significant excess mortality and there hasn't been and nobody can explain this. My overall assumption was 'horses for courses' but yeah alright fair enough if you believe that. I stated in another post previously my assumptions are based on yes the information I receive but then my own common sense in interpreting what I am told including the reliability/validity of that information. I trust my own common sense but do not feel the need to try and impose my own perceptions on others based upon it. I still intend to get a vaccine, I would be inclined to say primarily because I believe am a well balanced person who does not buy in to Orwellian conspiracy theories but then again each to their own.
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