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snytaxx Flag London 04 Jun 16 2.19pm Send a Private Message to snytaxx Add snytaxx as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

As a slight diversion. High ranking UKIP member turns to EU to appeal against court ruling...

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Perhaps put it on the UKIP thread then?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Jun 16 2.36pm

Originally posted by snytaxx

Perhaps put it on the UKIP thread then?

Or show the hypocrisy of some brexiters.

BTW. I still haven't decided how I'm going to vote.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 04 Jun 16 2.41pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by thegreatlardino

too be honest getting very bored with all this..going to be screwed by which ever government is in regardless...couple of questions though...say the country votes to leave...then what happens? do we go right its the 1st of July, we are taking our stumps away and going home to play with other kids? would it not need an act of parliament? a tad confused..but its funny watching the tory party infighting though.

Edited by thegreatlardino (04 Jun 2016 11.59am)

As far as I know it's 2 years before anything has to change. Tariffs remain the same, free movement remains the same, with a probable rush of people before the deadline.

As far as whether an out decision is set in stone, I am unsure, but anyone that doesn't carry it through will lose all credibility and suffer a vote of no confidence. If Cameron walk back to the pavilion if we lose even he wouldn't go against the referendum result, it's what he wanted 6 months ago and more anyway as he knew he wouldn't get any reforms of any real worth.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 04 Jun 16 2.44pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Or show the hypocrisy of some brexiters.

BTW. I still haven't decided how I'm going to vote.

Don't do what Paul Mason might do and not vote out because it's the tories who run the country now. This is for probably half of your life, nearly all of your kids and all of your grandchildren and so on. That's why I'm voting out.

If I was post-grad age or had kids that age or slightly younger I'd possibly vote in. Slightly younger and possibly undecided. Younger than that and definitely out.

 


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 04 Jun 16 2.45pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Or show the hypocrisy of some brexiters.

BTW. I still haven't decided how I'm going to vote.

.......but from your stance over the last few pages, if not the whole of this thread I'd say you lack the balls to vote OUT & you'll side with your favourite Cund Call me Dave.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Jun 16 2.49pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Don't do what Paul Mason might do and not vote out because it's the tories who run the country now. This is for probably half of your life, nearly all of your kids and all of your grandchildren and so on. That's why I'm voting out.

If I was post-grad age or had kids that age or slightly younger I'd possibly vote in. Slightly younger and possibly undecided. Younger than that and definitely out.

I left the Labour party because of the direction it took on Iraq and was drifting towards TUSC. However I'm more happy with the direction Labour has taken. The change came from within. However I'm not sure if the change from within could happen in the EU.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Jun 16 3.06pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

I left the Labour party because of the direction it took on Iraq and was drifting towards TUSC. However I'm more happy with the direction Labour has taken. The change came from within. However I'm not sure if the change from within could happen in the EU.

Haven't you rejoined yet Nick?

 


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leifandersonshair Flag Newport 04 Jun 16 3.13pm Send a Private Message to leifandersonshair Add leifandersonshair as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

There are, however, two issues overlooked here frequently.

First is that the rebate is assured - it isn't. Cameron himself told us that. He told us *extremely* quietly after he very quietly paid the extra £1.7Bn he "refused to pay" in 2014.

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Secondly, with regards to the money we "get back". Yes, we get told how and where to spend it. It's not just "free money". That should be clear (I hope) to anyone. However, these frequently stipulate that the UK government must match £-for-£ the "EU funds". So, my local art centre, "paid for by EU funds":

UK handed over £10m to Brussels
Brussels keep £5.1m
Return £4.9m
Tell us to spend it on an arts centre, and match the £4.9m
Total cost to taxpayer (on bread and circuses): £15m

Scam.

Good points- however, would central government actually fund your local arts centre? Or would they prefer to blow it on tax cuts for the richest, and a vanity project in London somewhere? Or a shiny new Type 45 Destroyer? Or, basically, anything else?

Same for EU farming subsidies- anyone who thinks this money would be happily paid by the UK government to farmers direct without the EU is crazy. Brexit would probably mean the collapse of what remains of the UK farming industry.

In an odd way, having monies from the EU earmarked for certain projects can be a good thing- better (using your example) £15m on the arts centre, than zero.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Jun 16 3.40pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Haven't you rejoined yet Nick?

No.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Jun 16 3.42pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

No.

Go on mate, any particular reason why not?

I mean, if Liam Fox became leader of the Tories I might even have a look at joining them.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Jun 16 4.35pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Go on mate, any particular reason why not?

I mean, if Liam Fox became leader of the Tories I might even have a look at joining them.

Just haven't got round to it. Most of my political work is with the NUT anyhow.

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 04 Jun 16 5.03pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

I left the Labour party because of the direction it took on Iraq and was drifting towards TUSC. However I'm more happy with the direction Labour has taken. The change came from within. However I'm not sure if the change from within could happen in the EU.

Complete bollocks.

Corbyn got in through thousands of assorted leftie weirdos joining as associates and voting him in. The core membership of Labour is centre left and many view Corbyn as an electoral liability.

However, keep kidding yourself that all is well on Planet Gusset.

 


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