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Stirlingsays Flag 17 Aug 14 6.29pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Quote Forest Hillbilly at 17 Aug 2014 4.12pm

So if the British Government had adopted Israeli tactics for Northern Ireland, that would be acceptable ?

The issue is force, whether military or para-military, and the need to negotiate in order to stop this slaughter of civilians.

For some reason the current world seems accepting of slaughter under a religious doctrine, whether it be Israel or IS.

And don't forget. The Jews killed JC.


If the British had bombed Northern Ireland we would have also killed untold numbers of Protestants and also innocent Catholics.....When presumably you're targeting active IRA.

Northern Ireland isn't Gaza........If rocket fire was continually coming over from a section of Northern Ireland.....I would have considered it....Still would have rejected the idea. Targeted assassinations of the IRA was the way.....Something we never did enough of because our Parliament only acts once London is bombed.....And then, 'acting' means 'surrendering'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2014 6.36pm)

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 17 Aug 14 6.36pm

Quote matt_himself at 17 Aug 2014 6.01pm

Quote nickgusset at 17 Aug 2014 5.40pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 17 Aug 2014 10.02am

Quote matt_himself at 17 Aug 2014 6.48am

Good old Hamas. Rejecting an extended truce which will cease the hostilities and deaths:

[Link]

When will the Palestinian people wise up and get rid of these arseholes who care not a jot for their own people and only of sustaining their own power?


The people are stoopid and/or bullied I guess Matt.

Just like the Afghans and the Taliban, Hamas are using the Palestinans as a human shield to increase sympathy for their aims and it is working on the bleeding heart liberals who cannot or will not see what they are doing.


Also said in the article that Israel have not accepted the terms and that talks are recommencing today. You neglected to mention this.
Needs to be give and take from both sides.

Edited by nickgusset (17 Aug 2014 5.43pm)

There needs to be a rejection of Hamas by the Palestinian people.

Hamas are the biggest blockers towards any semblance of peace.

They don't want peace. It will erode their power base.


And the more Israel bomb Gaza, the more people turn to Hamas... Vicious circle innit.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 17 Aug 14 6.39pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 17 Aug 2014 6.36pm

And the more Israel bomb Gaza, the more people turn to Hamas... Vicious circle innit.

Nick......Am I right in observing that the IDF have left the streets of Gaza?

Errr....Do you remember what you and Kermit's typed about Gaza's future oil industry and that being a motivation for the IDF taking Gaza over?

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 17 Aug 14 6.42pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 17 Aug 2014 6.36pm

Quote matt_himself at 17 Aug 2014 6.01pm

Quote nickgusset at 17 Aug 2014 5.40pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 17 Aug 2014 10.02am

Quote matt_himself at 17 Aug 2014 6.48am

Good old Hamas. Rejecting an extended truce which will cease the hostilities and deaths:

[Link]

When will the Palestinian people wise up and get rid of these arseholes who care not a jot for their own people and only of sustaining their own power?


The people are stoopid and/or bullied I guess Matt.

Just like the Afghans and the Taliban, Hamas are using the Palestinans as a human shield to increase sympathy for their aims and it is working on the bleeding heart liberals who cannot or will not see what they are doing.


Also said in the article that Israel have not accepted the terms and that talks are recommencing today. You neglected to mention this.
Needs to be give and take from both sides.

Edited by nickgusset (17 Aug 2014 5.43pm)

There needs to be a rejection of Hamas by the Palestinian people.

Hamas are the biggest blockers towards any semblance of peace.

They don't want peace. It will erode their power base.


And the more Israel bomb Gaza, the more people turn to Hamas... Vicious circle innit.


Yes, it's as simple as that Gusset. Did you get these pearls of wisdom from the Middle Class guilt ridden campaigners who were outside The Oval yesterday who pretty much everyone ignored?

Nothing to do with Hamas' charter pledging them to the destruction of Israel. Nothing to do with Hamas saying they will support a 'truce [sic]' but not a permanent peace with Israel. Nothing to so with Hamas actively wanting Jews to be out of the region or 'peaceably [sic]' living under Hamas control.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 17 Aug 14 6.44pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Aug 2014 6.39pm

Quote nickgusset at 17 Aug 2014 6.36pm

And the more Israel bomb Gaza, the more people turn to Hamas... Vicious circle innit.

Nick......Am I right in observing that the IDF have left the streets of Gaza?

Errr....Do you remember what you and Kermit's typed about Gaza's future oil industry and that being a motivation for the IDF taking Gaza over?

Well they've destroyed any infrastructure that Palestine could use to set up drilling. And what with the sanctions on what goes in or out...

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 17 Aug 14 6.52pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Aug 2014 6.39pm

Quote nickgusset at 17 Aug 2014 6.36pm

And the more Israel bomb Gaza, the more people turn to Hamas... Vicious circle innit.

Nick......Am I right in observing that the IDF have left the streets of Gaza?

Errr....Do you remember what you and Kermit's typed about Gaza's future oil industry and that being a motivation for the IDF taking Gaza over?


The fact is that any Left Wing weirdo can publish a blog stating that 'an imperialist regime' is starting an 'oil war' in the Middle East and the self righteous lap it up without questioning it.

Oil and gas exploration and drilling has nigh on nothing to do with the recent troubles in Gaza.

Edited by matt_himself (17 Aug 2014 6.52pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 17 Aug 14 7.21pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Quote matt_himself at 17 Aug 2014 6.52pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Aug 2014 6.39pm

Quote nickgusset at 17 Aug 2014 6.36pm

And the more Israel bomb Gaza, the more people turn to Hamas... Vicious circle innit.

Nick......Am I right in observing that the IDF have left the streets of Gaza?

Errr....Do you remember what you and Kermit's typed about Gaza's future oil industry and that being a motivation for the IDF taking Gaza over?


The fact is that any Left Wing weirdo can publish a blog stating that 'an imperialist regime' is starting an 'oil war' in the Middle East and the self righteous lap it up without questioning it.

Oil and gas exploration and drilling has nigh on nothing to do with the recent troubles in Gaza.

Edited by matt_himself (17 Aug 2014 6.52pm)


Spot on.......And we had to endure a load of old tosh about it on here.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 17 Aug 14 7.23pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 17 Aug 2014 6.44pm

Well they've destroyed any infrastructure that Palestine could use to set up drilling. And what with the sanctions on what goes in or out...


Yup, I'll take that as a Nick version of....'fair cop, I was wrong guv'.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 17 Aug 14 7.27pm

Quote matt_himself at 17 Aug 2014 6.48am

Good old Hamas. Rejecting an extended truce which will cease the hostilities and deaths:

[Link]

When will the Palestinian people wise up and get rid of these arseholes who care not a jot for their own people and only of sustaining their own power?

Probably because Hamas provide 80% of the welfare, education, food and security in the Palestine Authority.

Before Hamas it was Fatah, and before that The PLO.


 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 17 Aug 14 7.28pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Aug 2014 7.23pm

Quote nickgusset at 17 Aug 2014 6.44pm

Well they've destroyed any infrastructure that Palestine could use to set up drilling. And what with the sanctions on what goes in or out...


Yup, I'll take that as a Nick version of....'fair cop, I was wrong guv'.


The situation hasn't played itself out yet...

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 17 Aug 14 7.32pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 17 Aug 2014 7.28pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Aug 2014 7.23pm

Quote nickgusset at 17 Aug 2014 6.44pm

Well they've destroyed any infrastructure that Palestine could use to set up drilling. And what with the sanctions on what goes in or out...


Yup, I'll take that as a Nick version of....'fair cop, I was wrong guv'.


The situation hasn't played itself out yet...


I'll give you that......We could be in for some afters.....Probably for about another generation.

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 17 Aug 14 7.33pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 17 Aug 2014 7.27pm

Quote matt_himself at 17 Aug 2014 6.48am

Good old Hamas. Rejecting an extended truce which will cease the hostilities and deaths:

[Link]

When will the Palestinian people wise up and get rid of these arseholes who care not a jot for their own people and only of sustaining their own power?

Probably because Hamas provide 80% of the welfare, education, food and security in the Palestine Authority.

Before Hamas it was Fatah, and before that The PLO.


Security equating to 'encouraging [sic]' Palestinians to face Israeli shells with their bare chests whilst being placed at hospitals, schools and other such buildings where, coincidentally, a s*** load of Hamas rockets are situated?

Palestinians need to reject these c***s. They are killing these people.

Edited by matt_himself (17 Aug 2014 7.33pm)

 


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