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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 26 Jul 23 1.59pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You know it to be fake?

Your shared tweet? Or the current hypothesis that doesn't rule out man made but promotes the more probable natural theory?

Both irrelevant really. My point was that in sarcastically posting 'trust the science' and countering what you view to be a false narrative with science (providing it actually has scientific merit), you're actually promoting science and the scientific process.

Eventually the process coalesces around the most likely theory, ditching other theories along the way each time new and robustly constructed evidence successfully displaces it. Always rises to the top, might take years, might take decades. Gravity etc.

So my take is your post is in fact championing 'Trust the science', not devaluing it. Science is literally about constantly trying to challenge and prove and disprove things. It doesn't stand still

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 26 Jul 23 4.03pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Your shared tweet? Or the current hypothesis that doesn't rule out man made but promotes the more probable natural theory?

Both irrelevant really. My point was that in sarcastically posting 'trust the science' and countering what you view to be a false narrative with science (providing it actually has scientific merit), you're actually promoting science and the scientific process.

Eventually the process coalesces around the most likely theory, ditching other theories along the way each time new and robustly constructed evidence successfully displaces it. Always rises to the top, might take years, might take decades. Gravity etc.

So my take is your post is in fact championing 'Trust the science', not devaluing it. Science is literally about constantly trying to challenge and prove and disprove things. It doesn't stand still

Of course I 'trust the science', my degree is in a STEM field.

The problem isn't science: it's honesty.

The problem isn't science: it's who pays the piper calls the tune.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 02 Aug 23 11.51pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Campbell with a video on newly released WHO figures on excess deaths.

It's very concerning yet is barely spoken about in the news media despite the numbers having died from it far exceeding the deaths attributed to Covid.....over two times higher.

There really should be far more attention being paid to finding out what is happening.

[Link]

 


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eaglesdare Flag 03 Aug 23 12.22am Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Your shared tweet? Or the current hypothesis that doesn't rule out man made but promotes the more probable natural theory?

Both irrelevant really. My point was that in sarcastically posting 'trust the science' and countering what you view to be a false narrative with science (providing it actually has scientific merit), you're actually promoting science and the scientific process.

Eventually the process coalesces around the most likely theory, ditching other theories along the way each time new and robustly constructed evidence successfully displaces it. Always rises to the top, might take years, might take decades. Gravity etc.

So my take is your post is in fact championing 'Trust the science', not devaluing it. Science is literally about constantly trying to challenge and prove and disprove things. It doesn't stand still

Anyone be it a doctor, scientist, professor anyone else who challenged the science was cancelled, discredited, fired, labbeled a conspiracy theorist, far right activist and any other name under the sun.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 23 9.46am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

I have just watched another mind numbing video from this site’s favourite YouTube charlatan on excess deaths. Of course people like me are not his target audience. They are the vaccine sceptics looking for confirmation of their biases.

Does he deliver? You bet he does. As before he makes no direct accusations. He just leaves them hanging in the air, although he comes pretty close by pointing to a rise in excess deaths occurring at the same time as a vaccination peak and raising an eyebrow. The second half is all about Canada taking a different approach on the vaccination of pregnant women compared to elsewhere and making reference to adverse reactions. What those reactions were is not stated but a sore arm is not the same as a death! You might though not understand that from this video.

Contrary to the suggestion in the video there has already been a lot of work done on why we are seeing excess death rates around the world. They are all indirectly attributable to Covid 19 and not to the vaccination against it. The pandemic itself might be over but its impact is not. Health care systems have been disrupted, procedures postponed, etc. We may never know the precise contributions from every element as some overlap but we do already know a lot. The heatwaves are also a factor. This explains what is actually happening. Not what someone getting rich from confirming biases wants you to think is happening:-

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Eden Eagle Flag Kent 03 Aug 23 10.44am Send a Private Message to Eden Eagle Add Eden Eagle as a friend

Over the past few months we have seen in the press a number of younger people (often sports people) suffering heart attacks with many dying and alongside this I have heard of, what feels like, a higher than expected number of people suffering heart attacks. These are not what you might have expected age or health wise mainly people in their forties or fifties who considered themselves to be quite fit.

Is anyone else hearing of a higher than expected number of cardiac events from their own social and work circle?

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Aug 23 10.49am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Campbell with a video on newly released WHO figures on excess deaths.

It's very concerning yet is barely spoken about in the news media despite the numbers having died from it far exceeding the deaths attributed to Covid.....over two times higher.

There really should be far more attention being paid to finding out what is happening.

[Link]

A friend of mine in hospital now with blood clots and myocarditis. In a serious condition. Has been getting the boosters diligently. Doctor's response has been that they don't know what's wrong with him. They must surely be suspicious at least.

 


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Eden Eagle Flag Kent 03 Aug 23 11.23am Send a Private Message to Eden Eagle Add Eden Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

A friend of mine in hospital now with blood clots and myocarditis. In a serious condition. Has been getting the boosters diligently. Doctor's response has been that they don't know what's wrong with him. They must surely be suspicious at least.

Sorry to hear that ASCPFC - is this someone that based on age, fitness and general health you would not expect to suffer blood clots?

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Aug 23 11.31am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

Sorry to hear that ASCPFC - is this someone that based on age, fitness and general health you would not expect to suffer blood clots?

They were always fit, just gone 50. This happened not long after a booster. What bothers me is the doctors, apparently, not even considering that. They don't seem to be able to give any convincing cause or diagnosis. They're saying they don't know. I haven't said anything to him but I want to say make sure you don't get any more boosters at the very least. I would advise that to everyone frankly.

 


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eaglesdare Flag 03 Aug 23 11.39am Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

They were always fit, just gone 50. This happened not long after a booster. What bothers me is the doctors, apparently, not even considering that. They don't seem to be able to give any convincing cause or diagnosis. They're saying they don't know. I haven't said anything to him but I want to say make sure you don't get any more boosters at the very least. I would advise that to everyone frankly.

Of course they know. If they say what the rest of us know then their careers are gone.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 03 Aug 23 11.46am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Of course they know. If they say what the rest of us know then their careers are gone.

Whatever is causing this should be the top priority of government.

I think it's telling that it's being ignored and that's deliberate negligence in my book.

Regardless, the we can only hope that whatever it is, 'the truth will out'. However, that does require brave people and bravery is a far rarer attribute than intelligence.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 23 11.49am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

They were always fit, just gone 50. This happened not long after a booster. What bothers me is the doctors, apparently, not even considering that. They don't seem to be able to give any convincing cause or diagnosis. They're saying they don't know. I haven't said anything to him but I want to say make sure you don't get any more boosters at the very least. I would advise that to everyone frankly.

The doctors will have considered it, and rejected it immediately because there is no evidence to support it as a likely cause. It's sad and unusual, but it's not unknown, for younger people to suffer like this, without a cause being obvious. Having a booster around the same time as another event must be very commonplace given the number of boosters being administered. I suffered bach ache after my last one. Was the booster the cause, or my arthritis?

Encouraging people not to receive their boosters when all the evidence suggests that you remain much more at risk from Covid than a vaccine to protect you from it, is not responsible in my view. It's advice I won't be taking and I encourage others to ignore.

 


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