They want it to happen either way. Us bombing Syria makes no difference, we are the enemy. What we must not do is do nothing. I find it staggering that people don't want us to defend not only ourselves but also our allies. The Americans, the French, the Aussies are all in there at there already, we simply have to support them, otherwise if something did happen to us, which it inevitably will regardless of today's vote, they will think twice before supporting us.

It's a f*cking rubbish decision to have to make, I don't believe that any government would actually want to go to war unless it felt it had to (it's expensive and extraordinarily risky politically after Iraq), but just because something is difficult doesn't mean it isn't right.

We're not actually defending ourselves though are we. We're just killing people with no real objective or planned outcome to appease public 'demand' to do something. At best it will inconvenience IS, at worst it'll bolster them and their support as we inevitably kill people around them.

We could, maybe, instead go after their money and income, which objectively, we could quite seriously degrade and the consequences of targeting people involved in the oil smuggling and 'laundering' are people who aren't going to be 'fanatics'.

Its astonishing how IS can manage to actually make 2-3m a day from oil smuggling, despite the US and our allies, striking at IS assets in Syria and Iraq....

Looks like the tactic - hitting the oilfields. Minimising civilian casualties, maximising (hopefully) the impact on the pocket.