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Stirlingsays Flag 10 Dec 18 6.51pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

What was it that George Orwell said about nationalists again? Oh yes I remember "they have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts."

And you a science teacher. Can't you get struck off for that sort of thing?


Are you becoming a troll Stevie boy?


 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Dec 18 6.53pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Tawny

You appear to view non white British people as less British than yourself if they do not share your political beliefs.

Still here?


What matters is that particular agenda, e.g. the interests of minorities are not necessarily the same as the majority.
Where Brexit is concerned, there seems to be a relationship between being Remain and in being in a minority. That is not to say that all non whites are Remainers but the majority seem to be and this is reflected in their political representation.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 10 Dec 18 6.55pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Why does it matter if he has an 'agenda'? Doesn't everyone have an agenda. I'm not aware of Hrolf doing anyone any harm posting comments about anglo saxons on a politics forum.

Suddenly if you mention anglo saxons or advocating for anglo saxons you're a racist......Some terrible person who wants to harm Raheem Sterling or something like that.

Indeed the 'The Gangers' have made an immense contribution to our culture, we never had their brothel cleaning skills before...….


 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Dec 18 7.03pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

I'm not here to find people who like me. I'm here to laugh at you.

Knock yourself out. I just feel sorry for you.

I have a life and I don't take myself too seriously.

It's funny that I have such a big effect on you though. You must take all this very seriously comrade.
I bet you were totally devastated when they banned you from the BBS. Even Jamie couldn't protect you.

I bet you blubbed and blubbed.

 

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Tawny Flag Croydon 10 Dec 18 7.05pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


I've seen no 'racist' view expressed.....just lefties trying to power play by framing comments as racist to suit their censorious nature.

I'll intervene into any conversation I like thank you very much. As I know little of you what you think of it matters little to me.

As for the validity of a person's view and their race.....well that's correct on an ethical level. However that wasn't what was being intimated. Hrolf was implying about someone's politics being related to allegiance and that unfortunately in many cases (not all by any means) is statistically correlated....It's not a reality I like but you can predict how someone will vote and what they will vote for based upon these matters.

This is statistically a fact and I often find the left like to obfuscate that with claims of racism.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2018 6.36pm)

As I said pepople are entitled to a view regardless of their race. If he or you want to be suspicious of a black or mixed race politicians view due to their race you can do so but it doesn't go anywhere does it. It's little different from pointing to a KIPPER and saying they're probably racist. It just further pushes people apart.

You refer here about how this is their country when refering to your own. The Anglo Saxon matra. I can see that you also closely link genetics and a long history in the country as being somehow the pinaccle of being British. Add to the mix comments about violence and certain racial groups due to genetics. To be frank you're teetering on the brink of the view that people are less British or less entitled to claim ownership of the nationality if they are not white.


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Tawny Flag Croydon 10 Dec 18 7.05pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Answering yourself?

You are only hurting yourself you know.

Find a place where people like you.

You tried the BBS and HOL and failed but there are other places. The Joseph Stalin appreciation society perhaps?

If I ever overtake your lofty ban total I will listen to you.

 

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Tawny Flag Croydon 10 Dec 18 7.08pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Still here?


What matters is that particular agenda, e.g. the interests of minorities are not necessarily the same as the majority.
Where Brexit is concerned, there seems to be a relationship between being Remain and in being in a minority. That is not to say that all non whites are Remainers but the majority seem to be and this is reflected in their political representation.

There's very little difference between saying this and suggesting that many more UKIP voters than the general population hold racist views. That's to say, if you're going to group up and scrutinise peoples motivatations for voting for something where exactly does it lead and what can you do with it? If a non white politician supports Brexit do they get handed an extra lollypop?

People believe what they believe and if you obsess over their race or are doing a colour count up at every turn you're unlikely to ever end up on the same page as them. Consequently you feed the very thing you appear to take issue with.

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

Indeed the 'The Gangers' have made an immense contribution to our culture, we never had their brothel cleaning skills before...….


Actually, Ganger means walker. It is not a surname but more a nickname.
The actual Hrolf or Rollo, depending on what you believe, did make quite a big contribution as he was the first Duke of Normandy and a great-grandfather of William the first.
My family tree suggests that he is a relation of mine but I have no real proof.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 10 Dec 18 7.16pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Tawny

As I said pepople are entitled to a view regardless of their race. If he or you want to be suspicious of a black or mixed race politicians view due to their race you can do so but it doesn't go anywhere does it. It's little different from pointing to a KIPPER and saying they're probably racist. It just further pushes people apart.

I'm hardly someone who would deny someone a view, whatever their race.

I have my political allegiances and I'm quite correct about the statistics upon how minorities line up on that....there's no suspicion about it. As for how that relates to an individual that's another matter.

When it comes to connecting the charge of 'racism' to Ukippers.....sorry if you find me rather more than a bit cynical.

The whole area of 'racism' has been turned into a meme at this point. The left treat what they regard as racists like the Nazis regarded Jews in the thirties.....they just make up stuff and invent monsters so that they can justify their commentary.

It's quite funny really....they become what they think they oppose.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2018 7.39pm)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Dec 18 7.18pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Tawny

There's very little difference between saying this and suggesting that many more UKIP voters than the general population hold racist views. That's to say, if you're going to group up and scrutinise peoples motivatations for voting for something where exactly does it lead and what can you do with it? If a non white politician supports Brexit do they get handed an extra lollypop?

People believe what they believe and if you obsess over their race or are doing a colour count up at every turn you're unlikely to ever end up on the same page as them. Consequently you feed the very thing you appear to take issue with.

It is nothing like saying that and only a complete idiot would think so.

I think you will find that the who people obsess about race are minorities. And of course, snowflake liberals with White guilt syndrome.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Dec 18 7.20pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Tawny

If I ever overtake your lofty ban total I will listen to you.

Good luck with that.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 10 Dec 18 7.21pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Actually, Ganger means walker. It is not a surname but more a nickname.
The actual Hrolf or Rollo, depending on what you believe, did make quite a big contribution as he was the first Duke of Normandy and a great-grandfather of William the first.
My family tree suggests that he is a relation of mine but I have no real proof.

So your EU credentials are pretty good.

 

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