The unvaccinated total for London is markedly higher than the rest of the country.

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Idiots the lot of them.
One of our sub contract workforce is in intensive care and has been for weeks because he thought the Government were pulling a fast one.
Naturally I hope he recovers but like thousands of others they are taking up hospital beds when they needn't do so.
Selfish people in my opinion.
I would say let's close London off but SDK is doing a great job anyway so it won't be long!

You know who else is selfish? Those who drink lots, smoke and do drugs. These people take up more hospital beds than any unvaxxed.

Sounds more like what you considered lowered your personal risk most was your foremost concern.

I very much doubt anyone whose read your posts over time was in any doubt of that.

I have some sympathy with the fear of infection and during the early and mid days of the pandemic there was sense in limiting contact...if agreed to....between the vulnerable and a limited number....still that was no guarantee of no transmission but reasonable precautions. We did this ourselves with my partner's fully vaccinated father. However he knew that no one in our household would take the vaccinations and when we both caught covid he stayed away for two weeks as we isolated.....These were all adult risk assessments that we all agreed to.

However extending that to vaccinating the healthy and young people against vaccines they had no real danger from.....Not for me.....that's against all previous medical practice....and indeed, that was the initial medical judgement and they had to be told to reconsider upon other criteria.

If people wanted it outside the 'at risk' category, sure an adult can make that decision but that's not what happened and many were manipulated into taking them under basic threat of losing their job.

My children's immune systems seem to be healthy and in terms of airborne viruses that are highly unlikely to kill them like the flu and covid I would much rather their system learnt naturally as it was ever thus.

They won't be taking any covid vaccines.

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Feb 2022 11.42pm)

I never considered not getting vaccinated. It looked such a "no-brainer" to me that anyone deciding that either they, or those they are responsible for, wouldn't be, just seemed crazy. I have sympathy for those whose minds have been polluted by the nonsense circulated of the anti-vax campaign, but if reassurance doesn't work then a resolute approach is needed.

I reject the idea that perfectly safe, tested and approved vaccines should be withheld from children by their parents, if it is considered necessary by society that they be given. Whether that be MMR or Covid. What state their own immune systems are in is an irrelevance and those whose reasoning is "vaccines they had no real danger from", totally miss the point. It's whether them being vaccinated improves overall public health that matters. A US teenager is suing his anti-vax mother for not getting him the MMR vaccine. Could this be the start of a trend? Could we see a grandparent, having lost their husband or wife, sue the anti-vax parent of a child who infected their lost partner? It would be difficult to prove, but I can imagine someone trying.

Getting the world vaccinated is the quickest, and safest, way to end a pandemic. Omicron is helping with this one, but it's not a "get out of jail free" card for the unvaccinated. We need to get the world used to being vaccinated. That means defeating the misinformation merchants and those who profit from them.

It also means that those who refuse to help, on the basis of personal choice, must expect consequences. We need everybody on board the bus. Those who don't get a ticket, don't get to ride back to destination normality. They will have to take another, slower route.