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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 25 Jun 22 7.10pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
What way are you voting ? Beth every time
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cryrst The garden of England 25 Jun 22 8.05pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Beth every time So red then; or are you abstaining again?
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Teddy Eagle 25 Jun 22 8.07pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Beth every time Not until she learns how to pronounce the G on the end of words.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 25 Jun 22 9.44pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So red then; or are you abstaining again? Have to vote red if its only way to get rid of bungles gang, but im south croydon so might be a lib dem vote-i will take advice!
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 25 Jun 22 9.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Not until she learns how to pronounce the G on the end of words. Hadn"t noticed Teddy, but will look out now,
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cryrst The garden of England 26 Jun 22 6.24am | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Have to vote red if its only way to get rid of bungles gang, but im south croydon so might be a lib dem vote-i will take advice! And what if the ‘advice’ and manifestos lead to boris being the best choice for you personally; Would you cut off your nose etc just to prove a point, because the moral high ground isn’t always best. I would recommend a Vote for your self, not the neighbour who wouldn’t and won’t do the same.
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Matov 26 Jun 22 10.35am | |
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If I was a Labour supporter I would be very, very wary of any kind of tactical voting scenario. It certainly can seem attractive, and in terms of bye-elections, clearly works. But in the wider context of a general election, it becomes a lot more complex. Any kind of Lib-Lab pack immediately raises the question of Brexit, and your average Remainer Retard will be singing their joy at the prospect of us going back into the EU from the top of their voices. Also the potential King-Making role of the SNP comes into play as well. I get why people might think it is the logical step forward, and I am sure talks have been underway for a while around how it might work but it also potentially, especially for Labour, poses far more questions than it answers. You want to make the next GE all about getting rid of Johnson, then fine. But that will then mean it becomes a single issue event, much like June 2016 and December 2019. And your tears from those are still not dry yet.
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Beanyboysmd 26 Jun 22 4.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
If I was a Labour supporter I would be very, very wary of any kind of tactical voting scenario. It certainly can seem attractive, and in terms of bye-elections, clearly works. But in the wider context of a general election, it becomes a lot more complex. Any kind of Lib-Lab pack immediately raises the question of Brexit, and your average Remainer Retard will be singing their joy at the prospect of us going back into the EU from the top of their voices. Also the potential King-Making role of the SNP comes into play as well. I get why people might think it is the logical step forward, and I am sure talks have been underway for a while around how it might work but it also potentially, especially for Labour, poses far more questions than it answers. You want to make the next GE all about getting rid of Johnson, then fine. But that will then mean it becomes a single issue event, much like June 2016 and December 2019. And your tears from those are still not dry yet. Even if the worst case scenarios are worse than that, the alternative is several more years of...this... I am 41 and this is genuinely the worst government of my life, the open greed and incompetence is bewildering. Things that would have got any politician fired years ago is being done out in the open and actively being defended in the press. Its genuinly disgusting. America are a few years ahead of us and they were so sick of it that they voted for a vanilla zombie just so they could get their breath back and stop being a global embarrassment. Labours/lablib leader sounds fine right now
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steeleye20 Croydon 26 Jun 22 4.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Beanyboysmd
Even if the worst case scenarios are worse than that, the alternative is several more years of...this... I am 41 and this is genuinely the worst government of my life, the open greed and incompetence is bewildering. Things that would have got any politician fired years ago is being done out in the open and actively being defended in the press. Its genuinly disgusting. America are a few years ahead of us and they were so sick of it that they voted for a vanilla zombie just so they could get their breath back and stop being a global embarrassment. Labours/lablib leader sounds fine right now Indeed words fail one really the conservative project right back to 1979 looks totally flawed notably the God of privatisation, and it feels embarrassing to British. The '13 years of tory misrule' that led to Harold Wilson has nothing on the last 12 years. It is a cruel and totally useless and corrupt government. I wish I could find anything positive to say about our situation.
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cryrst The garden of England 26 Jun 22 5.17pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Indeed words fail one really the conservative project right back to 1979 looks totally flawed notably the God of privatisation, and it feels embarrassing to British. The '13 years of tory misrule' that led to Harold Wilson has nothing on the last 12 years. It is a cruel and totally useless and corrupt government. I wish I could find anything positive to say about our situation.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Jun 22 6.42pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Indeed words fail one really the conservative project right back to 1979 looks totally flawed notably the God of privatisation, and it feels embarrassing to British. The '13 years of tory misrule' that led to Harold Wilson has nothing on the last 12 years. It is a cruel and totally useless and corrupt government. I wish I could find anything positive to say about our situation.
Trouble is Labour can’t and don’t stop spending. If they had a limit it wouldn’t be so bad, but they can’t say no and it eventually gets out of control. It’s usually many years since the last labour government and the many millions too young to remember vote labour in. Longer term England will stray away from voting conservative, helped along by importing low income or no income immigrants on the recent huge scale and more. I actually dislike both parties now and agree both splitting would suit the Electorate, but not those in charge - those who really run both parties. Donors for example.,
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steeleye20 Croydon 26 Jun 22 9.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Trouble is Labour can’t and don’t stop spending. If they had a limit it wouldn’t be so bad, but they can’t say no and it eventually gets out of control. It’s usually many years since the last labour government and the many millions too young to remember vote labour in. Longer term England will stray away from voting conservative, helped along by importing low income or no income immigrants on the recent huge scale and more. I actually dislike both parties now and agree both splitting would suit the Electorate, but not those in charge - those who really run both parties. Donors for example., That is simply wrong Labour produced budget surpluses regularly through the Blair/Brown ears. The tories never have, and the tax burden has increased to WW2 levels. Conservatives are the party of reckless spending high taxation and financial incompetence.
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