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Elphers40 Sunny South Coast 02 Jun 21 10.35am | |
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Well they’re keeping everybody guessing- that’s for sure! Optimistic Palace head on - we’ve been planning for this for a long time - knowing that Roy won’t go on for ever and any new manager will want some cash to invest in squad improvements - maybe we’ve gambled that Roy could squeeze survival out of the boys and any significant investment could be held back for the new era (when we go again on a new 5 year plan). Might be a bit too optimistic there? Like others have posted I also have a feeling the launch of the Amazon documentary will be tied in with an announcement. Cooper fills me with dread quite frankly and he would be completely out of his depth in my opinion - maybe I just don’t like to see us following Brighton’s lead in going to Swansea for a so called “up and conning manager”. Okay Potter has gone on from Swansea to put his stamp on Brighton and (HATE to say it) has them playing great stuff - it’s a totally different scenario to that at Palace. He had much more experience abroad and time to tweak the squad and develop a culture in the Championship.
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Crystal_Clear Belfast 02 Jun 21 10.39am | |
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I would love to see Nuno appointed as manager, though stars would need to be aligned to get him. One thing that would work in our favour is that with so many out of contract, it gives him the ideal opportunity to bring the Portugese contingent.
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Mstrobez 02 Jun 21 10.42am | |
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Originally posted by Elphers40
Well they’re keeping everybody guessing- that’s for sure! Optimistic Palace head on - we’ve been planning for this for a long time - knowing that Roy won’t go on for ever and any new manager will want some cash to invest in squad improvements - maybe we’ve gambled that Roy could squeeze survival out of the boys and any significant investment could be held back for the new era (when we go again on a new 5 year plan). Might be a bit too optimistic there? Like others have posted I also have a feeling the launch of the Amazon documentary will be tied in with an announcement. Cooper fills me with dread quite frankly and he would be completely out of his depth in my opinion - maybe I just don’t like to see us following Brighton’s lead in going to Swansea for a so called “up and conning manager”. Okay Potter has gone on from Swansea to put his stamp on Brighton and (HATE to say it) has them playing great stuff - it’s a totally different scenario to that at Palace. He had much more experience abroad and time to tweak the squad and develop a culture in the Championship. If he wasn’t out of his depth at Swansea, why would he be out of his depth at Palace? Prior to joining Swansea he was linked with Crewe in League one. Swansea gave him his shot and by all accounts he did very well. We’re talking about a manager who lost £60m worth of players and achieved Swansea’s highest ever points tally in the Championship. He bettered Potter on both times of asking who benefitted from a squad fresh from the Premier League. The vitriol thrown at Cooper is silly imo. My fear with him is that it’s too early for him. But we could do a hell of a lot worse and he certainly fits the profile of a project more than Nuno does.
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Croydon-Trucker 02 Jun 21 10.48am | |
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Rumour has it that Frank Lampard was actually there at the training ground the last few week putting the players to the test . He said to Mr Parrish that anyone he (Frank )can run faster than needs to go. He realised that there was only 3 players that could run faster than him and decided that the task was to big .
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ex hibitionist Hastings 02 Jun 21 10.58am | |
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there's something happening, William Hill have stopped betting, and so have the exchanges, you can only get best priced 14/5 on any selection on the exchanges, apart from Dyche who is still trading at 3-1. No exchange odds at all for Ismael.
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Midlands Eagle 02 Jun 21 11.06am | |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
there's something happening, William Hill have stopped betting, and so have the exchanges, For the sake of the non gamblers (like me) what does that mean?
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 02 Jun 21 11.09am | |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
there's something happening, William Hill have stopped betting, and so have the exchanges, you can only get best priced 14/5 on any selection on the exchanges, apart from Dyche who is still trading at 3-1. No exchange odds at all for Ismael. Definitely ! I've been told that SP and DF have put all the names in a hat and will be picking the winner out at midday. If it's Ismael, Dougie has agreed for it to go on to be the best of three. White Smoke expected over Soho Square shortly afterwards.
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Midlands Eagle 02 Jun 21 11.11am | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
This is worse than transfer deadline day
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pstrutt Busselton, WA 02 Jun 21 11.36am | |
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Originally posted by manwitheagletattoo
Why would Nuno spend a reported three days talking over the Palace job unless he was interested, it’ doesn’t make sense nor would it be professional and to be honest why would he or his agent do that wasting everybody’s time and effort. I imagine his agent is doing most of the talking, but if we as a club are saying the right things I could see us getting only so far during this short amount of time. NES is bound to make time for these interviews as it puts him squarely in the shop window and further teams (Everton / whoever) will act now, rather than allow us to secure his signature, if they want to. If no one makes any offers and we make an acceptable offer then we could get our man. I don't see that happening. However, I can't imagine a Manager taking too long to decide their own future when the pre-season is around the corner.
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pstrutt Busselton, WA 02 Jun 21 12.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
If he wasn’t out of his depth at Swansea, why would he be out of his depth at Palace? Prior to joining Swansea he was linked with Crewe in League one. Swansea gave him his shot and by all accounts he did very well. We’re talking about a manager who lost £60m worth of players and achieved Swansea’s highest ever points tally in the Championship. He bettered Potter on both times of asking who benefitted from a squad fresh from the Premier League. The vitriol thrown at Cooper is silly imo. My fear with him is that it’s too early for him. But we could do a hell of a lot worse and he certainly fits the profile of a project more than Nuno does. Good post and I agree. I guess the on the face of it, one of them looks like a youthful Mr Burns, whereas the other is the Holy Bloody Spirit. I'd see a purposeful move in appointing Cooper, but the vitriol towards Cooper from the Swansea fans worries me the most - particularly given that it doesn't seem like it because he is leaving, but in spite of his success there. It's a strange one, but read this link: [Link]
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TheBigToePunt 02 Jun 21 12.12pm | |
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Like one or two others, I'm struggling with the number of posters who are so anti-Cooper. I would have thought that the experience of seeing Benteke, Sakho, Cabeye, Meyer, and probably Allardyce arrive as 'big names' only to see them give far less of themselves to Palace than the relative journeymen they were brought in to replace would have rung a few alarm bells by now. We are, without question, a step back for Nuno after Wolves so why would he want to come? Some have suggested it's to live in London, or to stay in the Premier League, or because his wife might be tempted to move to London but not to the Midlands. If any of these are a factor then they shouldn't be. These are all bollocks reasons to employ a man to such a key position. If Cooper or Ishmael got the job then their motivation would be clear - to prove themselves in the top flight, knowing that if they fail they will not be offered another chance. That will drive them on, motivate them to find solutions when times get tough, force them to look at themselves when things go wrong because they will have no other way. Where a big name who has already proved himself in the top flight can hint that he isn't the problem and still maintain credibility, a man getting his first chance can't do that. That's what we need. The glamour of a big name will wear off quickly, as will their interest in us, or at least their hunger for the fight once the reality of working for Palace kicks in. We have done well out of promoting hungry, up and coming players and I don't see why the same should not be true of managers. Both Cooper and Ishmael have done a decent apprenticeship and both have positive attributes we can use.
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Mwncisee Middlesbrough 02 Jun 21 12.15pm | |
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As a fan who I'd like to think is more pragmatic than some on here, for example not being part of the Hodgeson out brigade, I find myself torn between the managers we have been linked with. Cooper feels like the right fit, and I should be in support of his appointment but I just feel he is a risky, untested poor mans Dyche. If we want the heir apparent to Hodgeson it's Dyche. Appointing Cooper would be skipping a line of succession. So in summary...underwhelming NES is a coach I have admired for a while and feel he is destined for great things. Unfortunately I can't help but feel that the best fit for him is the Everton job. Ancelotti leaving has really thrown a spanner in the works for that one. I expect him to go there. However, if we did get him I really think it would be seen as a real coup. Maybe, just maybe NES feels that the impression of him is of a coach who has succeeded due to the money Wolves have spent and him being perceived as a bit of a Mendes lap dog. Maybe, just maybe he wants to prove his credentials as a coach, take a club in a tricky position and sort them out and the plaudits that would go with that. I see people talk about how the Mendes link would be damaging for Palace. The suggestion that Mendes through NES would be pushing big money signings on us to line his own pockets. I'd hazard to remind that Mendes will not just have `big` players on his books but hundreds of other potential stars, just think of his network, contacts and scouting network! Can easily see a scenario where Palace provides a platform, a shop window where these potential stars can be showcased and yes may well move on but we could make a hefty profit in the process (Will be in Mendes's interests too). Could be exciting times but a lot of if's in there but its not out the question. Edited by Mwncisee (02 Jun 2021 12.16pm)
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