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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Jan 22 6.36pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

It certainly appears to be very effective against serious illness [Link] One of the ingredients is proven (ritonavir) and apparently a long standard HIV drug, (PF-07321332 works by reducing the ability of SARS-CoV-2 the virus that causes COVID-19 to multiply in the body while ritonavir prolongs the action of PF-07321332 enabling it to remain longer in the body at levels that affect the multiplication of the virus).

We might get the 'rushing it out' 'lets wait 7000 years' arguments, but as it appears to work and is used for those who are relatively speaking most in need, so it's a welcome development in my book.

Thanks. More reason to be cautious with this than with the vaccines, in my inexpert opinion, but as I think it's primary role is to lessen the impacts in severe cases that's less of a consideration. I think there are some others following too.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jan 22 7.50pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

This’ll cheer you up. The government are advertising and pushing visas to Africans to come and work in care and as NHS nursing assistants. Aren’t they replacing those being put out of work?

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jan 22 7.56pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Some countries certainly got the short straw in terms of access to vaccines, that's for sure. Often in countries where people are hardly the healthiest as it is.

I thought the vaccine rate was high in Soviet Scotland.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Jan 22 8.09pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

This’ll cheer you up. The government are advertising and pushing visas to Africans to come and work in care and as NHS nursing assistants. Aren’t they replacing those being put out of work?

They have been quietly doing that for a long time. In our local hospital many of the unsocial hour shifts, and unpopular wards, (difficult or aggressive patients) are staffed mainly by international nurses, many from Africa. So far as I am aware visas for nursing assistants are not available.

 


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Grumbles 28 Jan 22 9.01pm Send a Private Message to Grumbles Add Grumbles as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They have been quietly doing that for a long time. In our local hospital many of the unsocial hour shifts, and unpopular wards, (difficult or aggressive patients) are staffed mainly by international nurses, many from Africa. So far as I am aware visas for nursing assistants are not available.


Due to the unwillingness of UK citizens to pay for the NHS this has been true for decades and to its detriment.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 28 Jan 22 9.48pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I thought the vaccine rate was high in Soviet Scotland.

Haha

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 28 Jan 22 9.50pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

This’ll cheer you up. The government are advertising and pushing visas to Africans to come and work in care and as NHS nursing assistants. Aren’t they replacing those being put out of work?

I'm not convinced this new rule (where you must be 'double vaccinated' - which seems a bit odd anyway) will be actioned on April 1st really. It seems too late in the day to make much difference. They should've either brought this in a year ago or never.

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 29 Jan 22 4.47am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Grumbles


Due to the unwillingness of UK citizens to pay for the NHS this has been true for decades and to its detriment.

I think that statement is unfair. A lot of people I know, myself included, would be willing to pay more, as we appreciate its value to society.
Things that have seen costs escalate include (but not restricted to ) advances in expensive treatments, massive costs of pharmaceuticals and an increasingly aged population.
And although a lot of people profess to want to pay more for the NHS, (significant)rises in taxes has never been a vote winner.

And the ?NHS has always (certainly in my lifetime) seen significant numbers of trainee nurses come from Africa. There are some associated problems with this, which arise from cultural differences, but also not having English as a first language (or at least not having a full and fluent grasp of the language) is slightly risky when it comes to dispensing drugs, and communicating with other medical professionals.

 


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becky Flag over the moon 29 Jan 22 8.25am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I think that statement is unfair. A lot of people I know, myself included, would be willing to pay more, as we appreciate its value to society.
Things that have seen costs escalate include (but not restricted to ) advances in expensive treatments, massive costs of pharmaceuticals and an increasingly aged population.
And although a lot of people profess to want to pay more for the NHS, (significant)rises in taxes has never been a vote winner.

And the ?NHS has always (certainly in my lifetime) seen significant numbers of trainee nurses come from Africa. There are some associated problems with this, which arise from cultural differences, but also not having English as a first language (or at least not having a full and fluent grasp of the language) is slightly risky when it comes to dispensing drugs, and communicating with other medical professionals.

Chuck into the mix the repayments on PPF, and the massive increase in 'conditions' dealt with by the NHS (as opposed to illnesses of it's original remit) and that's a huge chunk of it's funding gone. Not always the oldies to blame for everything.....and a good number of those oldies are still paying taxes!

Edited by becky (29 Jan 2022 8.27am)

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 29 Jan 22 9.45am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Grumbles


Due to the unwillingness of UK citizens to pay for the NHS this has been true for decades and to its detriment.

True. Everybody wants a well funded NHS but nobody wants to pay the increase in NI contributions, you can't have it both ways.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 29 Jan 22 9.55am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Grumbles


Due to the unwillingness of UK citizens to pay for the NHS this has been true for decades and to its detriment.

The scope of the NHS has massively expanded over time.....now it's like some kind of national pseudo religion.

Now it takes up nearly 40 percent of taxpayer spending.

The military spending is 2 percent.

Personally I don't really think any of this is realistic.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 29 Jan 22 9.56am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Chuck into the mix the repayments on PPF, and the massive increase in 'conditions' dealt with by the NHS (as opposed to illnesses of it's original remit) and that's a huge chunk of it's funding gone. Not always the oldies to blame for everything.....and a good number of those oldies are still paying taxes!

Edited by becky (29 Jan 2022 8.27am)

Not everything....

 


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