I am not a anti vaxxer but as a NHS employee, and qualified to adminster medication, inject individuals etc I will make an observation about that article.

The assertion made is unsafe.

The use of aspirin has decades of study, research and experience of use to come to informed conclusions about long term regular use.

The author states "I’m not claiming that taking aspirin is the same as getting vaccinated", well it isn't and the two should not be compared.

The author is extrapolating and exaggerating, doing that which they are criticising others of.

Edited by Pembroke (26 Jan 2022 2.53pm)

Not in any way. They would simply shoot the dissenters, or poison them with umbrellas.

If anything it's much more the sort of thing Thatcher might have said. In fact, she did say something about those not being with us, being against us, didn't she.

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I am returning to this as I have now had a chance to actually read this CDC report, which is just one of several published on the same day. It's always best to read things yourself than rely on someone's video interpretation which seems to support your biases. As Dr Campbell himself admits it's not easy reading, but how he arrives at his conclusions puzzles me, and why the msm are not making a big deal of it, obvious. It really doesn't say anything new. For sure it's not a definitive game changing moment. Actually he had no need to search too far to discover what it meant. It's there is the opening paragraphs:-

"What are the implications for public health practice?

Although the epidemiology of COVID-19 might change as new variants emerge, vaccination remains the safest strategy for averting future SARS-CoV-2 infections, hospitalizations, long-term sequelae, and death. Primary vaccination, additional doses, and booster doses are recommended for all eligible persons. Additional future recommendations for vaccine doses might be warranted as the virus and immunity levels change."

Not a lot there that we didn't already know!

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (26 Jan 2022 4.13pm)

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Have you ever visited, let alone live in, a totalitarian country? If you had, I think you might think a little differently.

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How others use terms is no doubt for them, but when I use them I more apply it to those who are ardently against the vaccine as a general rule, rather than those who appreciate that's an especially valuable tool for certain groups (elderly, vulnerable) and less so for others.

It's not the best article I will admit, more a point that people (including anti vax types) more than willingly routinely take medications that have much more of a serious downside (including death) more often then you'd think, and yet are not politically wedded to that, so don't really consider it a problem.

Several estimates put deaths from aspirin at 100 per 1000000 users. And what about paracetomol: "Acetaminophen is the leading cause of acute liver failure in the United States, according to a report published in the British Medical Journal. The same report notes that acetaminophen overdose accounts for 82,000 emergency room visits and 26,000 hospitalizations each year."

The politicisation of the vaccine is in large part responsible for suspicion of it in my view. With vast numbers taking it, realistically in adults there is remarkably little demonstrated downside compared to the benefits. From what we know so far it's hard to argue with the assessment that it's safer than the most common over the counter drugs. I appreciate it's not entirely like for like but it terms of perception it's a useful comparison.

It can't be too bad if you went back.

Nor can you be too bad, if they let you back in.

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