Probably because in Gaza the leadership uses the numerous tunnels to keep moving around, whereas in Lebanon I believe the Hamas offices were targeted. Pretty obvious that the target would be there at some point. But I take your concern.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

Not sure that intent is true; more likely a necessity when a leadership hides amongst the population. The innocent become collateral damage. Definitely wrong but I can see why.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

Fair point.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

Russia could do the same to Ukraine and the reason they don't is the same reason Israel don't.

Instead, Israel are making Gaza unliveable to stay in and are forcing these people out that way. They explicitly want the UN to come in and send these people to Europe.

If all positions are adhered to we could have a Bobby Sands situation develop where two million people are allowed to starve....which is happening with the vulnerable already.

Aside from the humanitarian aspects to that, I don't want the practical consequences of it. We should have never have associated ourselves with this barbarism.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Jan 2024 10.40pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yep, they want white Republican boys....the few main sign ups to the US army....to die in wars against their enemies.

They will do everything they can to make this a wider war.....If the US weren't backing them both militarily and economically they wouldn't be doing any of this because frankly they couldn't afford to.

Biden.....quite understandably does not want another war, simply because it's more economic and political negativity for him. However, he also is scared of upsetting the donor class who control him and most of the politicians.

The US is engaged in considerable self harming but hey.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2024 9.42am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

i doubt anyone would have a serious claim to be an expert on Middle-East politics.
A lot of posturing going on, after Israel's alleged incursions into Lebanon.
Israel seems to be gambling that the USA will back up with military assistance if things get hot. As we;ve seen in Ukraine, the US seems to lack the stomach for getting involved.

"Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthi rebels have issued defiant statements vowing to continue their attacks on any vessel passing their coast that they consider has links to Israel.
Their actions have now been unanimously condemned by the UN and, perhaps more significantly, a statement late on Wednesday by the US and 11 other nations implicitly warns the Houthis to stop or "bear the consequences".(BBC)

"The killing of Saleh al-Arouri, the deputy Hamas leader, in Beirut on Tuesday elevated tensions in Lebanon even further, renewing fears of a wider war in the region. The attack hit the southern suburb of Dahiyeh, a stronghold of the powerful Lebanese Shia movement Hezbollah.
In a speech yesterday, Hasan Nasrallah, the influential Hezbollah leader, described it as a "flagrant Israeli aggression" that could not go unpunished." (BBC)

I disengage, I turn the page.