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111 pages about a man who has no real power or affected anyones life (that i know of). I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
You do all realise you have very slowly been squished and molded into a police cctv / big brother state over the last 30 years and is only going to get harder for the working man. When I was a boy, you had a 'good dad' if he went to work every day, went out earnt the money, you get to see him on a Saturday morning for your football match then off to watch the Palace. Sunday he would chill feet up and knap on the sofa after lunch then Monday morning back to work! What a man, what a good man and great dad. Corbyn and Farage are the only two people in the UK with any sort of power to help change these crazy policies, yet is being mocked and twisted at every stage, on purpose by the media. Who incidentally are driven by a hidden hand, the same hand that is slowly enforcing all of this siht on us. Next time you hear someone mocking or knocking them, instead of being one of the sheep take a look from the other perspective and try to realise the bigger picture rather than get embroiled in bitty detail.
Any particular year in mind?
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F Quote Cucking Funt at 26 Nov 2015 8.08pm
Quote nickgusset at 26 Nov 2015 7.44pm
Quote AlexTheGreat at 26 Nov 2015 7.31pm
Quote -TUX- at 26 Nov 2015 6.50pm
111 pages about a man who has no real power or affected anyones life (that i know of). I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
You do all realise you have very slowly been squished and molded into a police cctv / big brother state over the last 30 years and is only going to get harder for the working man. When I was a boy, you had a 'good dad' if he went to work every day, went out earnt the money, you get to see him on a Saturday morning for your football match then off to watch the Palace. Sunday he would chill feet up and knap on the sofa after lunch then Monday morning back to work! What a man, what a good man and great dad. Corbyn and Farage are the only two people in the UK with any sort of power to help change these crazy policies, yet is being mocked and twisted at every stage, on purpose by the media. Who incidentally are driven by a hidden hand, the same hand that is slowly enforcing all of this siht on us. Next time you hear someone mocking or knocking them, instead of being one of the sheep take a look from the other perspective and try to realise the bigger picture rather than get embroiled in bitty detail.
Any particular year in mind?
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-TUX-  Alphabettispaghetti 26 Nov 15 8.34pm |
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Quote AlexTheGreat at 26 Nov 2015 7.31pm
Quote -TUX- at 26 Nov 2015 6.50pm
111 pages about a man who has no real power or affected anyones life (that i know of). I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
You do all realise you have very slowly been squished and molded into a police cctv / big brother state over the last 30 years and is only going to get harder for the working man. When I was a boy, you had a 'good dad' if he went to work every day, went out earnt the money, you get to see him on a Saturday morning for your football match then off to watch the Palace. Sunday he would chill feet up and knap on the sofa after lunch then Monday morning back to work! What a man, what a good man and great dad. Corbyn and Farage are the only two people in the UK with any sort of power to help change these crazy policies, yet is being mocked and twisted at every stage, on purpose by the media. Who incidentally are driven by a hidden hand, the same hand that is slowly enforcing all of this siht on us. Next time you hear someone mocking or knocking them, instead of being one of the sheep take a look from the other perspective and try to realise the bigger picture rather than get embroiled in bitty detail. I agree with the sentiment but the 'powers that be' will never allow it, imo.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 26 Nov 15 8.37pm |
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Nick, Alex What is a working man? Someone who sweeps the road? Flips burgers? A supervisor in a call centre? Maybe a cafe owner selling cappuccino to the proletariat? An MD or chairman of a multi national conglomerate? What is your version of a working man? Demanding family? Don't have kids then. Glib phrases like stealth taxes and police state. What is a stealth tax?is it dressed up like a ninja and you ever actually ever see it? Police state? There speaks someone who clearly has never been abroad. The world is changing sometimes for the better sometimes not but no single country an fight the tide of change. It's not the 1960s.
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| -TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 26 Nov 15 8.48pm |
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Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 26 Nov 2015 8.37pm
Nick, Alex What is a working man? Someone who sweeps the road? Flips burgers? A supervisor in a call centre? Maybe a cafe owner selling cappuccino to the proletariat? An MD or chairman of a multi national conglomerate? What is your version of a working man? Demanding family? Don't have kids then. Glib phrases like stealth taxes and police state. What is a stealth tax?is it dressed up like a ninja and you ever actually ever see it? Police state? There speaks someone who clearly has never been abroad. The world is changing sometimes for the better sometimes not but no single country an fight the tide of change. It's not the 1960s.
And you talk about ''glib phrases''. Pah.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 26 Nov 15 8.54pm |
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Quote -TUX- at 26 Nov 2015 8.48pm
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 26 Nov 2015 8.37pm
Nick, Alex What is a working man? Someone who sweeps the road? Flips burgers? A supervisor in a call centre? Maybe a cafe owner selling cappuccino to the proletariat? An MD or chairman of a multi national conglomerate? What is your version of a working man? Demanding family? Don't have kids then. Glib phrases like stealth taxes and police state. What is a stealth tax?is it dressed up like a ninja and you ever actually ever see it? Police state? There speaks someone who clearly has never been abroad. The world is changing sometimes for the better sometimes not but no single country an fight the tide of change. It's not the 1960s.
And you talk about ''glib phrases''. Pah. Which bit of sometimes for the better sometimes not didn't you understand?
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| -TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 26 Nov 15 8.59pm |
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Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 26 Nov 2015 8.54pm
Quote -TUX- at 26 Nov 2015 8.48pm
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 26 Nov 2015 8.37pm
Nick, Alex What is a working man? Someone who sweeps the road? Flips burgers? A supervisor in a call centre? Maybe a cafe owner selling cappuccino to the proletariat? An MD or chairman of a multi national conglomerate? What is your version of a working man? Demanding family? Don't have kids then. Glib phrases like stealth taxes and police state. What is a stealth tax?is it dressed up like a ninja and you ever actually ever see it? Police state? There speaks someone who clearly has never been abroad. The world is changing sometimes for the better sometimes not but no single country an fight the tide of change. It's not the 1960s.
And you talk about ''glib phrases''. Pah. Which bit of sometimes for the better sometimes not didn't you understand? The bit where we are constantly paying more for less just to live.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 26 Nov 15 9.53pm |
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Quote -TUX- at 26 Nov 2015 8.59pm
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 26 Nov 2015 8.54pm
Quote -TUX- at 26 Nov 2015 8.48pm
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 26 Nov 2015 8.37pm
Nick, Alex What is a working man? Someone who sweeps the road? Flips burgers? A supervisor in a call centre? Maybe a cafe owner selling cappuccino to the proletariat? An MD or chairman of a multi national conglomerate? What is your version of a working man? Demanding family? Don't have kids then. Glib phrases like stealth taxes and police state. What is a stealth tax?is it dressed up like a ninja and you ever actually ever see it? Police state? There speaks someone who clearly has never been abroad. The world is changing sometimes for the better sometimes not but no single country an fight the tide of change. It's not the 1960s.
And you talk about ''glib phrases''. Pah. Which bit of sometimes for the better sometimes not didn't you understand? The bit where we are constantly paying more for less just to live. "we" create the change, however the world has changed very much over the last 10-15 years technology means you can't be a country in total isolation unless you're North Korea. Alex seems to be blaming everything and anything. Politicians to having a family. As for paying more for less that is an argument in itself. Something's we pay more for something's we don't. Over recent years we have had as much disposable income as ever. Of course I would like to pay less tax or less for train travel. I'm not saying the world or this country is perfect but going back to Alex's post times have changed, women have full time jobs kids do more and yes fathers have to do more. As a father of two I think that's a good thing. [Link] Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (26 Nov 2015 9.57pm)
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| Stuk Top half 27 Nov 15 12.33pm |
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Quote AlexTheGreat at 26 Nov 2015 7.31pm
Quote -TUX- at 26 Nov 2015 6.50pm
111 pages about a man who has no real power or affected anyones life (that i know of). I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
You do all realise you have very slowly been squished and molded into a police cctv / big brother state over the last 30 years and is only going to get harder for the working man. When I was a boy, you had a 'good dad' if he went to work every day, went out earnt the money, you get to see him on a Saturday morning for your football match then off to watch the Palace. Sunday he would chill feet up and knap on the sofa after lunch then Monday morning back to work! What a man, what a good man and great dad. Corbyn and Farage are the only two people in the UK with any sort of power to help change these crazy policies, yet is being mocked and twisted at every stage, on purpose by the media. Who incidentally are driven by a hidden hand, the same hand that is slowly enforcing all of this siht on us. Next time you hear someone mocking or knocking them, instead of being one of the sheep take a look from the other perspective and try to realise the bigger picture rather than get embroiled in bitty detail. So what you're saying is modern women have ruined the country?
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Nov 15 1.05pm |
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He's probably right about Syria, admittedly for the wrong reasons. Bombing IS in Syria is a waste of money, it'll have no real benefit, it won't make us safer or less of a target, and it certainly won't result in any military success. Even Cameron doesn't really have any real justification for the cost of attacking IS in Syria other than it'll make people feel better, and it looks like doing something. It might very well actually work out in the best interests of the PM, Arms Companies and Procurement and IS (who may very well relish attacks on them, that inevitably will kill a lot of civilians in the area - resulting in increased support from equally desperate people who want to do something, even if its ineffective, to stike back). That's the problem, we kill theirs, they kill ours, and somewhere in that equation everyone gets stronger. The blitz killed 80,000 Londoners, and all it achieved was an increased resolution to fight and to sign up.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 27 Nov 15 1.21pm |
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The solution needs to be multi faceted, destroy IS and you will rid the world of a lot of nut jobs. However there will be someone else waiting in the wings. Just like Al Qaeda has largely been superseded by IS, another organisation will rise from its ashes unless something is done to stop people having their heads turned. IS as an organisation is dependent on a Caliphate, the first thing to do when it comes to defeating them is destroy the caliphate
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Nov 15 1.43pm |
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Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 27 Nov 2015 1.21pm
The solution needs to be multi faceted, destroy IS and you will rid the world of a lot of nut jobs. However there will be someone else waiting in the wings. Just like Al Qaeda has largely been superseded by IS, another organisation will rise from its ashes unless something is done to stop people having their heads turned. IS as an organisation is dependent on a Caliphate, the first thing to do when it comes to defeating them is destroy the caliphate Indeed, and just bombing places in Syria won't achieve that. The IS caliphate may very well benefit from it. Realistically, it needs a ground campaign backed by air support, that can consolidate the captured territory and establish it as a functional secure state territory, without alienating the people who live there, even if they have been living there under IS. Curiously, we've been 'relentless' in our pursuit of IS targets and infrastructure, and yet their income from oil smuggling, which is their primary revenue, is still raking in huge amounts of revenue.
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