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OldFella London 04 Jan 22 2.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Ah yes. We so miss such great experiences as the charge of the Light Brigade and the wearing of red tunics during guerilla wars. My grandfather had a stiff upper lip. That resulted in a permanently stiff leg and a hatred of how he was convinced to go into a war that killed so many of his comrades. And having been blown up, sent back once again into Vimy Ridge. Personally I rather like stiff tits but then I always was a pragmatist. As the world changes you have to get with the action or get left behind Stirling. I would rather be in the UK than in Brazil at the moment, you need to adjust quickly in a crisis not 'keep a stiff upper lip'. Try looking at things differently, I recommend these guys: To Live As A Nomad Requires A Completely Different Outlook On Change And Movement Compared To Settled Communities. Instead Of Building Walls, Hierarchies And Avoiding Risks, Nomads Approach Challenges With A Nomadic Mindset. My grandfather had his tongue shot out in the war. He never really talked about it.
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Stirlingsays 04 Jan 22 2.30pm | |
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Talk about tarts and suddenly I'm in a sweet shop. Maple, I have some time for you but come on....'The Charge of the Light Brigade' probably pretty much sums up the differences. Sure...look for complaints in the ranks and you will always find them...but you don't build the pyramids by holding polls....and unfortunately wars are like that....Not everyone in charge is Alexander. Perhaps you think the boats on the Titanic should have been distributed fifty fifty as well. I look to a far better world....post modernism can coco. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2022 2.36pm)
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Stirlingsays 04 Jan 22 2.33pm | |
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Originally posted by OldFella
My grandfather had his tongue shot out in the war. He never really talked about it. I'm stealing that.
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 04 Jan 22 2.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
We still possess it. We just show it in other ways. We have responded to the pandemic with great stoicism, enduring lockdowns and restrictions with fortitude and an understanding of how we all need to pull together at a time of adversity. Well, most of us have. Some have shown great weakness, with a reluctance to support the national effort and a determination to behave selfishly.
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Stirlingsays 04 Jan 22 2.40pm | |
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'Live As A Nomad'? The Arabs? If I want to eat some sand I'll get down to the beach on a windy day. Anyway the history of those people don't exactly fit into modern, let alone post modern mindsets Maple me old syrup.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Jan 22 2.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The issue in hospitals is self created. If you are going to allow 20 odd percent of your staff to sit at home with a runny nose then you create the scenario yourself. Run the damn hospitals in the same way they have always been run. This isn't and has never been the black death and my country is run by tarts. What Johnson said at the very start remains the only sensible thing he's said. But he quickly got his marching orders from his bosses didn't he....as did the rest of the western governments (excepting two), all saying the same phrases because it's all the same tune. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2022 2.25pm) And non mask wearers are snowflakes according DanH who you couldn’t rely on in the world wars. Classic
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BlueJay UK 04 Jan 22 2.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The issue in hospitals is self created. If you are going to allow 20 odd percent of your staff to sit at home with a runny nose then you create the scenario yourself. Run the damn hospitals in the same way they have always been run. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2022 2.25pm) It's a tricky one though, as much like OAP homes, people in hospital are already often in ill health, often drastically so. Knowingly putting covid on top of that creates a lot more problems than diminishing it to a runny nose. Because the issue becomes about other peoples health complications rather than their own. In the big picture I'd say that staff absences are only really a big problem this time around, and that's due to how fast Omicron spreads (which in some regards isn't a bad thing). It would seem to be a very temporary problem though, so will be ridden out before long. As in if a staff member is off for a week with covid, they're very unlikely to be troubled with it again anytime soon anyway, so best that they're out of the picture during that time. Also, if they're just allowed to carry on working, they will inevitably spread it to many more members of staff some of whom will legitimately be too ill to work for a time, so little is gained from working while infected.
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Stirlingsays 04 Jan 22 2.48pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
It's a tricky one though, as much like OAP homes, people in hospital are already often in ill health, often drastically so. Knowingly putting covid on top of that creates a lot more problems than diminishing it to a runny nose. Because the issue becomes about other peoples health complications rather than their own. In the big picture I'd say that staff absences are only really a big problem this time around, and that's due to how fast Omicron spreads (which in some regards isn't a bad thing). It would seem to be a very temporary problem though, so will be ridden out before long. As in if a staff member is off for a week with covid, they're very unlikely to be troubled with it again anytime soon anyway, so best that they're out of the picture during that time. Also, if they're just allowed to carry on working, they will inevitably spread it to many more members of staff some of whom will legitimately be too ill to work for a time, so little is gained from working while infected. While I'd agree with some of that I think my commentary is essentially that there is an overstatement of the problem....which basically feeds into over reaction and why we have over the top absences in the public services. Sure, you don't have the ill treating the ill, however there is a common sense approach here that hospitals have always dealt with in the past....viruses aren't new and they have always run in the past when we had more more deadlier ones. The sky isn't falling in for about 99.9 percent of people....society helps the 0.1 percent but it's nuts to do more than that.
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BlueJay UK 04 Jan 22 2.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
There is the Alpha Male Alliance or whatever it’s called How does this somehow manage to sound like the least masculine group on the planet? . Legitimately masculine men manage to navigate the world without having a panic attack, they don't need to create a contrived faux 'alpha' persona to let people about.
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The Dolphin 04 Jan 22 2.52pm | |
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We will be through it soon I hope.
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Stirlingsays 04 Jan 22 2.53pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
How does this somehow manage to sound like the least masculine group on the planet? . Legitimately masculine men manage to navigate the world without having a panic attack, they don't need to create a contrived faux 'alpha' persona to let people about. This from the guy who said he could 'incapacitate me'.
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BlueJay UK 04 Jan 22 2.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
While I'd agree with some of that I think my commentary is essentially that there is an overstatement of the problem....which basically feeds into over reaction and why have over the top absences in the public services. Sure, you don't have the ill treating the ill, however there is a common sense approach here that hospitals have always dealt with in the past....viruses aren't new and they have always run in the past when we had more more deadlier ones. The sky isn't falling in. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2022 2.49pm) I'll admit it is a tricky one. For instance if there was a ward related to surgery for broken bones and the like of younger people then I can't imagine that having covid on top would be the disaster of the century. It's more that there are clearly a decent percentage of people in hospital who could be adversely impact by it, in addition to it undermining the treatment they are already getting. As in you certainly wouldn't want covid ripping through a cancer ward, or a ward full of old people. I think it's sensible to remove staff if they come down with it, on account that it's basically a week off, accepting that there may be consequences of that too, but that they are likely more short lived. In a couple of months time, things will likely have died right down case number wise, and in theory at least people will have yet more protection making it even less of an issue than it may already be becoming.
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