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OldFella Flag London 04 Jan 22 2.28pm Send a Private Message to OldFella Add OldFella as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Ah yes. We so miss such great experiences as the charge of the Light Brigade and the wearing of red tunics during guerilla wars.

My grandfather had a stiff upper lip. That resulted in a permanently stiff leg and a hatred of how he was convinced to go into a war that killed so many of his comrades. And having been blown up, sent back once again into Vimy Ridge.

Personally I rather like stiff tits but then I always was a pragmatist.

As the world changes you have to get with the action or get left behind Stirling. I would rather be in the UK than in Brazil at the moment, you need to adjust quickly in a crisis not 'keep a stiff upper lip'.

Try looking at things differently, I recommend these guys:

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My grandfather had his tongue shot out in the war. He never really talked about it.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Jan 22 2.30pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Talk about tarts and suddenly I'm in a sweet shop.

Maple, I have some time for you but come on....'The Charge of the Light Brigade' probably pretty much sums up the differences.

Sure...look for complaints in the ranks and you will always find them...but you don't build the pyramids by holding polls....and unfortunately wars are like that....Not everyone in charge is Alexander.

Perhaps you think the boats on the Titanic should have been distributed fifty fifty as well.

I look to a far better world....post modernism can coco.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2022 2.36pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Jan 22 2.33pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by OldFella

My grandfather had his tongue shot out in the war. He never really talked about it.

I'm stealing that.

 


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 04 Jan 22 2.39pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We still possess it. We just show it in other ways.

We have responded to the pandemic with great stoicism, enduring lockdowns and restrictions with fortitude and an understanding of how we all need to pull together at a time of adversity.

Well, most of us have. Some have shown great weakness, with a reluctance to support the national effort and a determination to behave selfishly.


If seemingly we are going to have a different variant every few months we need to just get on with it, making sure the weak & vulnerable are protected whilst the rest of us get on with it.
Something they seem to be doing ok at in Arkansas, Texas & Florida & not so well in Democratic states such as New Jersey, New York & California where they've locked up everything & achieved little in real terms.
It looks like NYCs new mayor is already thinking along these lines as is the (Newish stand in Governor)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Jan 22 2.40pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

'Live As A Nomad'? The Arabs?

If I want to eat some sand I'll get down to the beach on a windy day.

Anyway the history of those people don't exactly fit into modern, let alone post modern mindsets Maple me old syrup.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 04 Jan 22 2.40pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The issue in hospitals is self created.

If you are going to allow 20 odd percent of your staff to sit at home with a runny nose then you create the scenario yourself. Run the damn hospitals in the same way they have always been run.

This isn't and has never been the black death and my country is run by tarts.

What Johnson said at the very start remains the only sensible thing he's said.

But he quickly got his marching orders from his bosses didn't he....as did the rest of the western governments (excepting two), all saying the same phrases because it's all the same tune.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2022 2.25pm)

And non mask wearers are snowflakes according DanH who you couldn’t rely on in the world wars. Classic

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 04 Jan 22 2.42pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The issue in hospitals is self created.

If you are going to allow 20 odd percent of your staff to sit at home with a runny nose then you create the scenario yourself. Run the damn hospitals in the same way they have always been run.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2022 2.25pm)

It's a tricky one though, as much like OAP homes, people in hospital are already often in ill health, often drastically so. Knowingly putting covid on top of that creates a lot more problems than diminishing it to a runny nose. Because the issue becomes about other peoples health complications rather than their own.

In the big picture I'd say that staff absences are only really a big problem this time around, and that's due to how fast Omicron spreads (which in some regards isn't a bad thing). It would seem to be a very temporary problem though, so will be ridden out before long. As in if a staff member is off for a week with covid, they're very unlikely to be troubled with it again anytime soon anyway, so best that they're out of the picture during that time. Also, if they're just allowed to carry on working, they will inevitably spread it to many more members of staff some of whom will legitimately be too ill to work for a time, so little is gained from working while infected.


 

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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Jan 22 2.48pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

It's a tricky one though, as much like OAP homes, people in hospital are already often in ill health, often drastically so. Knowingly putting covid on top of that creates a lot more problems than diminishing it to a runny nose. Because the issue becomes about other peoples health complications rather than their own.

In the big picture I'd say that staff absences are only really a big problem this time around, and that's due to how fast Omicron spreads (which in some regards isn't a bad thing). It would seem to be a very temporary problem though, so will be ridden out before long. As in if a staff member is off for a week with covid, they're very unlikely to be troubled with it again anytime soon anyway, so best that they're out of the picture during that time. Also, if they're just allowed to carry on working, they will inevitably spread it to many more members of staff some of whom will legitimately be too ill to work for a time, so little is gained from working while infected.

While I'd agree with some of that I think my commentary is essentially that there is an overstatement of the problem....which basically feeds into over reaction and why we have over the top absences in the public services.

Sure, you don't have the ill treating the ill, however there is a common sense approach here that hospitals have always dealt with in the past....viruses aren't new and they have always run in the past when we had more more deadlier ones.

The sky isn't falling in for about 99.9 percent of people....society helps the 0.1 percent but it's nuts to do more than that.


Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2022 2.55pm)

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 04 Jan 22 2.49pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

There is the Alpha Male Alliance or whatever it’s called

How does this somehow manage to sound like the least masculine group on the planet? . Legitimately masculine men manage to navigate the world without having a panic attack, they don't need to create a contrived faux 'alpha' persona to let people about.

 

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The Dolphin Flag 04 Jan 22 2.52pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

We will be through it soon I hope.
I think that Boris & Co. made a good call this time around whilst at the same time hacking off the population of Wales and Scotland - happy days!
In an event it does seem that Omicron isn't doing as much damage due to type but more importantly vaccines.
The business with time off within the NHS I totally get - they would not be home sick if they didn't need to be in my opinion.
The rest of the country however - well - there are many of them having an extra weeks holiday right now whilst feeling perfectly well.
They can't do it forever though so by the end of January - hopefully - normal life will pretty much resume for those of us who have vaccinated.
For the remainder then they need to be very careful not to catch it!

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Jan 22 2.53pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

How does this somehow manage to sound like the least masculine group on the planet? . Legitimately masculine men manage to navigate the world without having a panic attack, they don't need to create a contrived faux 'alpha' persona to let people about.

This from the guy who said he could 'incapacitate me'.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 04 Jan 22 2.56pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

While I'd agree with some of that I think my commentary is essentially that there is an overstatement of the problem....which basically feeds into over reaction and why have over the top absences in the public services.

Sure, you don't have the ill treating the ill, however there is a common sense approach here that hospitals have always dealt with in the past....viruses aren't new and they have always run in the past when we had more more deadlier ones.

The sky isn't falling in.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2022 2.49pm)

I'll admit it is a tricky one. For instance if there was a ward related to surgery for broken bones and the like of younger people then I can't imagine that having covid on top would be the disaster of the century. It's more that there are clearly a decent percentage of people in hospital who could be adversely impact by it, in addition to it undermining the treatment they are already getting. As in you certainly wouldn't want covid ripping through a cancer ward, or a ward full of old people.

I think it's sensible to remove staff if they come down with it, on account that it's basically a week off, accepting that there may be consequences of that too, but that they are likely more short lived. In a couple of months time, things will likely have died right down case number wise, and in theory at least people will have yet more protection making it even less of an issue than it may already be becoming.


 

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