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Stirlingsays 29 Dec 21 9.31am | |
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It's amazing how often WE has 'no idea' of the politics of those he links to. It's also amazing how often they turn out to be on the far left and that the position they hold is one he agrees with. Amazing....for the self described 'one nation conservative'.
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Mapletree Croydon 29 Dec 21 4.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I don't view you as dishonest about your politics, insomuch as it's obvious via your argumentation, however you certainly don't like to be pinned down. I would agree with you on merit however the whole area of hierarchy is intermeshed with identitarianism on the left and indeed, to an extent on the dissident right though through very different lenses. One day I will have you translate this into English but not today, life is simply too short
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Dec 21 5.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's amazing how often WE has 'no idea' of the politics of those he links to. It's also amazing how often they turn out to be on the far left and that the position they hold is one he agrees with. Amazing....for the self described 'one nation conservative'. No it's not, because politics have nothing to do with this, and it's amazing that anyone should think they have. Whether you accept, or reject, vaccination in general, and the Covid 19 one in particular, has nothing to do with politics. Or certainly ought not to. It's about their benefit versus any risk, and nothing else. To introduce politics is a deliberate distraction. An attempt to move the focus away from the criticism. Especially as the only thing that I know about the author is that he is called "Shaun" and that there isn't anything remotely political in what he has to say, only a lot of common sense. I'll leave it to anyone interested enough to view both the Dore video, and the one criticising it, to make up their own minds on the validity of each. Please don't be diverted by deflection attempts via imaginary political point scoring.
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Spiderman Horsham 29 Dec 21 5.48pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
I wouldn't worry. There is no way on this earth that this man is genuinely a doctor. Edited by BlueJay (29 Dec 2021 2.40am) Now you have done it! Incoming list of all his qualifications and why he is the only one on here who knows anything about COVID/ diets etc. Edited by Spiderman (29 Dec 2021 5.50pm)
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Stirlingsays 29 Dec 21 6.00pm | |
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'because politics have nothing to do with this' From the guy who looks into the political background and backing of sites that house opinions he disagrees with. Yet when it's a site with opinions he agrees with ....suddenly 'politics have nothing to do with this'. Hypocrite writ large. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Dec 2021 6.02pm)
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Stirlingsays 29 Dec 21 6.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
One day I will have you translate this into English but not today, life is simply too short As is your comprehension apparently.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Dec 21 8.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
'because politics have nothing to do with this' From the guy who looks into the political background and backing of sites that house opinions he disagrees with. Yet when it's a site with opinions he agrees with ....suddenly 'politics have nothing to do with this'. Hypocrite writ large. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Dec 2021 6.02pm) I look, as does anyone sensible, when it's germane. In this case it isn't, so trying to build a link is diversionary nonsense. Concentrating on a spurious political motivation, whilst ignoring the substance of the well reasoned criticism, alongside the usual personal attacks, smells strongly of someone who knows their hero has been found out, but cannot bring themselves to admit it.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 29 Dec 21 9.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I look, as does anyone sensible, when it's germane. In this case it isn't, so trying to build a link is diversionary nonsense. Concentrating on a spurious political motivation, whilst ignoring the substance of the well reasoned criticism, alongside the usual personal attacks, smells strongly of someone who knows their hero has been found out, but cannot bring themselves to admit it. somebody please wake me up when you write something interesting. Coronavirus...... it's going from the sublime to the ridiculous
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Dec 21 9.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
People who refer to 'anti vaxxers' often seem to conveniently conflate several different positions into one. It's as simplistic as assuming that all vaccinated people are fine with the policies on covid vaccines (when some may have felt pressured or misled into their jabs) or that all unvaccinated people are anti-vaccines.
Those who have chosen to be unvaccinated for these specific vaccines....which can cover a range of reasons. There are those who have taken one or two jabs and are now labelled unvaccinated that can be for a myriad of reasons as well. There are those who aren't vaccinated for medical reasons.
This is obviously true and understood, I think, by everyone. However, the term has become generic and at present is being used to describe those who are opposed to themselves getting the Covid 19 vaccines. Maybe, when the current pandemic is finally over, it will revert to its original, and accurate, meaning. We'll see.
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georgenorman 30 Dec 21 7.18am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This is obviously true and understood, I think, by everyone. However, the term has become generic and at present is being used to describe those who are opposed to themselves getting the Covid 19 vaccines. Maybe, when the current pandemic is finally over, it will revert to its original, and accurate, meaning. We'll see. It's just a minor example of the way political language has become largely euphemism, question-begging and cloudy vagueness - all designed to prop up various dogmas.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 30 Dec 21 7.47am | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
It's just a minor example of the way political language has become largely euphemism, question-begging and cloudy vagueness - all designed to prop up various dogmas. The data 'suggests'/ 'indicates' All examples of woolly mean-nothing language that various spokespeople have adopted
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 30 Dec 21 7.51am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This is obviously true and understood, I think, by everyone. However, the term has become generic and at present is being used to describe those who are opposed to themselves getting the Covid 19 vaccines. Maybe, when the current pandemic is finally over, it will revert to its original, and accurate, meaning. We'll see. language used to divide the population. To keep them supressed and occupied by 'the war effort' and groupings of enemies of the population that are there to do harm.
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