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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 29 Nov 18 3.10pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Of course it is not. The 17 millions merely have to vote again. What is the difficulty. They will lose by a big margin IMO. That is the real reason you are ducking it. No. You want to rerun the game because you lost. I choose not to rerun the game because it's already taken place with a definite outcome. Would you go running to the FA to rerun a match that Palace lost? Actually, you're just the kind of person who'd do exactly that if you could.
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Mstrobez 29 Nov 18 3.11pm | |
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Originally posted by W12
The Blair and Cameron/May governments are/were never "centrists" but globalists that were really about propping up big business (their mates). There has been no genuine centrist representation in this county since I can remember (for want of a phrase "classical liberal". All we have had is the masses ignored and patronized because there has been no 3rd party up to the job and the vast majority of people in this country will never "lurch to the right" like many other countries have in Europe. People did vote for Brexit for reasons other than a protest though. The political ideology within the EU and some of the people now involved are now scary and probably make any cost of leaving worth paying. Agreed almost entirely. Centrism in the “modern sense” I probably should’ve said. Globalist elite maybe. But yeah, I think a real centrist is actually more an advocate for social democracy, which I’m a supporter of. Problem is, the word, a bit like the words “moderate” and “liberal” have been completely hijacked and stripped of their initial intentions. Edited by Mstrobez (29 Nov 2018 3.12pm)
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masonic_palace Gatport Airwick 29 Nov 18 3.11pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Look at the 'deal' and explain how it in any way relates to June 2016. But more importantly for leavers, the UK is not leaving but becoming a rule-taker with no voice. We are not actually leaving, just becoming slaves. That's only if May's pathetic deal gets approved by Parliament...... Right now I'd take no deal - that should have been our starting point in negotiations. May was an idiot for blinking first. Edited by masonic_palace (29 Nov 2018 3.12pm)
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Mstrobez 29 Nov 18 3.11pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I wouldn't disagree with your post. I was kind of replying to Steely's kind of far left. I'm well aware of the old left's distrust of the corporate and centralized power hungry EU. Fair enough. Apologies.
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 29 Nov 18 3.16pm | |
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Originally posted by masonic_palace
That's only if May's pathetic deal gets approved by Parliament...... Right now I'd take no deal - that should have been our starting point in negotiations. May was an idiot for blinking first. Edited by masonic_palace (29 Nov 2018 3.12pm) What really angers me about May's performance and this pathetic excuse of a 'deal' is that she went into the negotiations and seemingly deliberately pissed away what was in fact a very strong bargaining position. As you said, she blinked first and too soon. Useless.
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becky over the moon 29 Nov 18 3.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
There's certainly one in Newcastle Upon Tyne as last I heard my ex wife was shagging him Absolutely nothing to do with Brexit, but I have never met a Hungarian who wasn't brilliant with horses. This may also be irrelevant in respect of your ex wife too.......or not, as he case may be.
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Mstrobez 29 Nov 18 3.31pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Of course it is not. The 17 millions merely have to vote again. What is the difficulty. They will lose by a big margin IMO. That is the real reason you are ducking it. Because you will never accept the outcome unless it’s remain. Not a single person backing a peoples vote is anything other than a staunch remainer. That’s why it shouldn’t even be called a “people’s vote” because it masks the true intention of it. Which is to vote again on whether to leave or remain. Leavers don’t want a second vote. They voted to leave. Why shouldn’t they have that implemented? It’s called democracy whatever way you wanna spin it. Attempting to re run the whole thing because you don’t like the result is just a complete insult, not only to democracy, but to the people partaking in it. Farage literally got laughed at when he suggested there should be another vote when it looked like remain would win by a small margin. Why is it no longer a joke because it’s the other way around? D’you not think leavers could’ve got a whole load of subjective polling to support a case for a second vote? Do you think the same centrists & remainers pushing for a so called people’s vote would’ve granted leave another vote if the shoe was on the other foot? Would’ve you? The truth is no, of course you wouldn’t. But it’s not your side it’s happening to. So who gives a toss eh? In response to “what’s the big deal with a second vote?”. Do you not remember the toxicity of the first one? Times that by about 10,000 with a side order of genuine potential of civil disobedience. And you have your answer. Why don’t we have a referendum on whether or not we have a second referendum? And if you lose that we can just claim they were all hoodwinked racists again, and have a second referendum on that too. Just keep having referendums, over and over again. Eventually fatigue will kick in and the foolish public will do as they’re told.
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W12 29 Nov 18 3.42pm | |
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And allowing a foreign citizen Like George Soros with clear idealogical reasons to interfere in British democracy and self determination.
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cryrst The garden of England 29 Nov 18 4.01pm | |
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Originally posted by becky
Absolutely nothing to do with Brexit, but I have never met a Hungarian who wasn't brilliant with horses. This may also be irrelevant in respect of your ex wife too.......or not, as he case may be. That maybe why shes an EX
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Mstrobez 29 Nov 18 4.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
Why don’t we have a referendum on whether or not we have a second referendum? And if you lose that we can just claim they were all hoodwinked racists again, and have a second referendum on that too. Just keep having referendums, over and over again. Eventually fatigue will kick in and the foolish public will do as they’re told. [Tweet Link]
Oh, that’s literally what people’s vote leaders are now going for. Flippin ‘eck.
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cryrst The garden of England 29 Nov 18 4.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
No. You want to rerun the game because you lost. I choose not to rerun the game because it's already taken place with a definite outcome. Would you go running to the FA to rerun a match that Palace lost? Actually, you're just the kind of person who'd do exactly that if you could. Im a remainer and dont see a re vote as fair so i dont agree with steeleye.
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steeleye20 Croydon 29 Nov 18 4.29pm | |
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What does our learned team think about this TV debate ?? I didn't think there could be anything worse than a referendum! So two drab old has-been politicians are going to debate their foibles on how we should leave the EU, while not leaving it really? What an advert for the UK, symbols of our decline.
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