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Mapletree Croydon 28 Dec 21 11.00pm | |
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Thank you. Useful information that I hadn’t seen.
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Mapletree Croydon 28 Dec 21 11.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
However considering your politics....or at least the politics of those you support in posts on here I struggle to understand how you advance this point.....As the left consider meritocracy as an impedance to other box ticks it's far more eager on. Brexit was decided by referendum and reaffirmed as the country's direction by the last election. It hardly makes sense to have ministers against implementing Brexit in a cabinet....However, that doesn't mean that they should be uncritical. I think the general point is a good one. It's been proven many times in history as a mistake to be surrounded by 'Yes men'. The generals in Vietnam led Johnson and others to believe that they were winning in Vietnam when in truth the rules they fought by meant that was impossible.....the difference between what was relayed to government and what was happening on the ground were significantly divergent. The single biggest recent example being Afghanistan. How anyone still has faith in what comes out from government and media is beyond me: they are liars....not least to themselves. And that is perhaps the hardest lie to deal with. While it's relatively easy to spot lies from others the hardest lies to spot are the ones we tell to ourselves. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Dec 2021 10.30am) You can choose to label me how you wish In my role I ensure people are hired and progress through merit I do all I can to keep a good balance of viewpoints but anyone put into a position they don’t merit immediately devalues others with similar profiles. Putting them in such a position would be counterproductive.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Dec 21 11.34pm | |
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I watched about as much of that as I could stomach. I have paid little attention to Dore before but watching that indicated that here is someone with an agenda searching for anything that could be twisted to make it appear to support it. He has such an obviously biased view about Bill Gates that even a smile is regarded as suspicious. If you watch it I suggest you follow it up by watching this, which adds a little balance:- I think this put Dore's videos into context. He is just capturing the anti-vaxxer viewers to increase click throughs and, I guess, sell them products. No better than Alex Jones.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Dec 21 11.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
That’s the thing though. Five years is too long. A Pub darts team team will drop players if someone better is available. So you agree with recall?
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Teddy Eagle 29 Dec 21 12.22am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
So you agree with recall? Yes, I think so but isn’t that for when an MP has done something wrong rather than doing it badly?
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BlueJay UK 29 Dec 21 2.08am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You are always good for a laugh aren’t you. As well as Diabetes UK, the British Heart Foundation and the WHO which other organisations insist on consistently lying to us? And which aren’t? Again, I made nothing up. I quoted. I wouldn't worry. There is no way on this earth that this man is genuinely a doctor. Edited by BlueJay (29 Dec 2021 2.40am)
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BlueJay UK 29 Dec 21 2.13am | |
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In any case, with each passing day the sky hasn't yet fallen in and so that;s a big plus. Omicron might yet be a xmas gift. A vaccinate like boost to the majority that will reduce the impact of whatever comes next. Hopefully we're emerging from this sh!te, but even if we're not, mentally I think most have already exited it. Hence why there hasn't been another lockdown (because it would've been greeted with two fingers).
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Stirlingsays 29 Dec 21 5.31am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You can choose to label me how you wish In my role I ensure people are hired and progress through merit I do all I can to keep a good balance of viewpoints but anyone put into a position they don’t merit immediately devalues others with similar profiles. Putting them in such a position would be counterproductive. I don't view you as dishonest about your politics, insomuch as it's obvious via your argumentation, however you certainly don't like to be pinned down. I would agree with you on merit however the whole area of hierarchy is intermeshed with identitarianism on the left and indeed, to an extent on the dissident right though through very different lenses.
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Stirlingsays 29 Dec 21 5.36am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You are always good for a laugh aren’t you. As well as Diabetes UK, the British Heart Foundation and the WHO which other organisations insist on consistently lying to us? And which aren’t? Again, I made nothing up. I quoted. He's right about the diets recommended for years on diabetes.
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Stirlingsays 29 Dec 21 6.36am | |
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That link provided by WE is from a far left commentator whose latest videos accuse the BBC of transphobia. He couldn't fit those accusations into one video, it required two. This is the link provided by the self described 'one nation conservative'.......funny how none of his links actually come from conservatives. As for his criticisms regarding Jimmy Dore....I watched the first five minutes and it's all about Dore's vaccine coverage. I'm not going to sit through a far leftist's video for comments relating to Dore on Gates that aren't signposted. As WE has obviously watched this....if he hasn't then why link, then these criticisms should be said or at least linked to a specific video on them, not just some link to a 50 minute video that covers multiple areas...that's a waste of my time . Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Dec 2021 8.22am)
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Stirlingsays 29 Dec 21 8.38am | |
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People who refer to 'anti vaxxers' often seem to conveniently conflate several different positions into one. It's as simplistic as assuming that all vaccinated people are fine with the policies on covid vaccines (when some may have felt pressured or misled into their jabs) or that all unvaccinated people are anti-vaccines.
Those who have chosen to be unvaccinated for these specific vaccines....which can cover a range of reasons. There are those who have taken one or two jabs and are now labelled unvaccinated that can be for a myriad of reasons as well. There are those who aren't vaccinated for medical reasons.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Dec 21 9.20am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
That link provided by WE is from a far left commentator whose latest videos accuse the BBC of transphobia. He couldn't fit those accusations into one video, it required two. This is the link provided by the self described 'one nation conservative'.......funny how none of his links actually come from conservatives. As for his criticisms regarding Jimmy Dore....I watched the first five minutes and it's all about Dore's vaccine coverage. I'm not going to sit through a far leftist's video for comments relating to Dore on Gates that aren't signposted. As WE has obviously watched this....if he hasn't then why link, then these criticisms should be said or at least linked to a specific video on them, not just some link to a 50 minute video that covers multiple areas...that's a waste of my time . Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Dec 2021 8.22am) I have no idea of the politics of the guy who produced the video, and even less interest, and fail to see why it matters. Or why mine do either! Apparently Dore is supposed to be "left" politically too! This is just an attempt to try to deflect the criticism. What matters is that Dore's hypocrisy is exposed, which means that his own videos can be put into context. Nothing more. You have no need to watch it all to realise that there are major questions to be asked about both the validity of his claims and his motivation in making them. Judge it for yourselves. I know I will now watch anything else from him with highly suspicious eyes.
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