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steeleye20 Croydon 29 Nov 18 10.23am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Please stop spouting garbage. People tend to vote on how matters affect them personally and I voted Brexit and live in an area with hardly any immigration. I voted Brexit like so many others in order to regain sovereignty over our own affairs 'I voted Brexit like so many others in order to regain sovereignty over our own affairs' Excuse us while we collapse, where have you been? The UK becomes a vassal, a rule-taker of the EU, without any say at all. Ask brexiteers they say the same.
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chris123 hove actually 29 Nov 18 10.33am | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Nothing you've said says we'll be better off Surely if you voted leave its because you'll think we'll be better off? Somebody please show me how we'll be better off I'll be better off because I wanted out for reasons of governance. Do you need that to be monetarised?
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steeleye20 Croydon 29 Nov 18 10.40am | |
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It is not a remain position that the UK surrenders all these things to Brussels, far from it. Where we are now, at the top table (God knows how still) we don't have to do any of these things. So why do it at all. Answers on a dustbin lid please send to your nearest Prime Minister...…..
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 18 10.48am | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Nothing you've said says we'll be better off Surely if you voted leave its because you'll think we'll be better off? Somebody please show me how we'll be better off What have these forecasters got rightregarding Brexit or anything, now or in the recent past? 2007 or 2008? They shut up when troubles are ahead and pipe up for scaremongering when required or their use is in jeopardy. Funny that. We need Europe and Europe needs us. Get a grip.
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the_mcanuff_stuff Caterham 29 Nov 18 11.04am | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
It is not a remain position that the UK surrenders all these things to Brussels, far from it. Where we are now, at the top table (God knows how still) we don't have to do any of these things. So why do it at all. Answers on a dustbin lid please send to your nearest Prime Minister...….. Indeed, one thing May has done is unite the remainers and brexiteers, in that they both hate the deal. The remainers very much want to stay in the EU and sit at the table, as one of the most powerful and influential members. How this is branded a "remainer's Brexit" is beyond me, it's the last thing they want. The Brexiters don't like it because it keeps the UK tied to the EU in some ways, at least temporarily. No Brexit is a "Remainer's Brexit". It's an oxymoron. If the people were asked again between a "hard Brexit" and the economic disadvantages that would bring or "remain", I'm not sure they would go for Brexit. The argument for Brexit was willfully vague, in that there was no counter proposal (given that EU membership is the status quo) outlining HOW Brexit would happen (hard Brexit, soft Brexit, freedom of movement, close economic ties, etc. etc). And now we have the mess that May has delivered a proposal that 100% meets the criteria of the referendum ("remain a member of the EU" or "leave the EU" and no on likes it.
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Pussay Patrol 29 Nov 18 11.07am | |
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Originally posted by chris123
I'll be better off because I wanted out for reasons of governance. Do you need that to be monetarised? Yes, because we're all in agreement that we will take a hit financially after the fallout of Brexit in 2019, so Where's the payback? Brexit affects everyone, where is the silver lining? The prosperity? And if it is just about sovereignty and governance how will our lives improve after Brexit?
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chris123 hove actually 29 Nov 18 11.10am | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Yes, because we're all in agreement that we will take a hit financially after the fallout of Brexit in 2019, so Where's the payback? Brexit affects everyone, where is the silver lining? The prosperity? And if it is just about sovereignty and governance how will our lives improve after Brexit? Well maybe yours won't.
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Stirlingsays 29 Nov 18 11.15am | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Yes, because we're all in agreement that we will take a hit financially after the fallout of Brexit in 2019, so Where's the payback? Brexit affects everyone, where is the silver lining? The prosperity? And if it is just about sovereignty and governance how will our lives improve after Brexit? What's the point of you asking these questions. They have been answered so many times yet you ignore them and keep on saying the same crap.
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DanH SW2 29 Nov 18 11.24am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What's the point of you asking these questions. They have been answered so many times yet you ignore them and keep on saying the same crap. Once again you are under the pretence that your answers are correct. No one knows what’s going to happen really, do they.
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steeleye20 Croydon 29 Nov 18 11.27am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Once again you are under the pretence that your answers are correct. No one knows what’s going to happen really, do they. That's all he can say, they have run out of road.
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Stirlingsays 29 Nov 18 11.30am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Once again you are under the pretence that your answers are correct. No one knows what’s going to happen really, do they.
But I agree, certainty on most things in life...especially the political is unrealistic. That doesn't mean you can't take a view though.
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Stirlingsays 29 Nov 18 11.32am | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
That's all he can say, they have run out of road.
You lot!
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