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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Jul 19 3.11pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
OK, don’t believe it. After all what would the Director of Public Prosecutions know about it? Show me a quote in which he says it was "deliberate policy" because I cannot find one!
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Teddy Eagle 10 Jul 19 3.47pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Show me a quote in which he says it was "deliberate policy" because I cannot find one! Sorry but I’m not doing searches for you. What’s the point anyway when you’ve already decided the facts.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Jul 19 3.51pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays
No....you see, they should just be trusting the authorities....not getting 'roused up'. The same authorities that allowed it to happen......I really can't stress enough just how massive a disaster this was.....The state has had a lock down on this problem ever since.....It punishes the reaction to it more than it tries to deal with the cause....Well, the reality is that like most boomer leaders they don't want to deal with the actual cause. Robinson's a 'rabble rouser'....Well feck me.....if your own daughters being raped doesn't rouse people up I don't know what does. But you know what's really going on here......none of this affects them. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jul 2019 1.49pm) Not one word of that was said by me. Nor does it represent my views in any way. Whether this is a deliberate distortion or a genuine misunderstanding is for everyone to decide. I know what my own opinion is. Of course everyone should be concerned about every kind of criminal activity and it's only human to be especially concerned when such activity threatens your children. That has never been in doubt but has also never been involved in the point that I have tried to make. The point is whether intervention from someone like "Robinson" helps or hinders dealing with these matters. I reject the contention, frequently repeated in this thread, that the authorities knowingly "allowed it to happen". In my view no responsible authority could possibly do that, so there has to be another explanation. It seems to me that it is likely that the scale of the problem wasn't well understood for quite some time and that those responsible tried to handle things quietly, under the radar, in an attempt to avoid causing major society issues. They thought, I think, that it could be nipped in the bud and contained. That it seems they were wrong doesn't mean their intentions were bad. So having realised the scale of the issue, and begun to get to grips with it, the last thing that's needed is a "Robinson" type sticking his oar in and disrupting their work. It must have been hard enough anyway having to deal with traumatised children and distressed parents without the muddy boots of "Robinson" getting in on the act. So my point has nothing to do with the anguish of the victims, much as my heart goes out to them. It is only that we need to support those we employ to look after these things for us, even when they make mistakes. We should not support those who interfere in that work. If anyone, "Robinson" included, has information which is pertinent to criminal activity then there is only one legitimate way to handle it. Present it to the Police! Responsible citizens don't go making videos about such things. Attention seekers do though.
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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Jul 19 3.53pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree
'We' don't need to be clear about anything, I write what I choose, to whom and when. Regarding Mandela, I have never researched the man and therefore would not venture a view. My very limited understanding is that he had a significant change of heart during his incarceration. So you only talk in absolutes when it suits your agenda? Mandela was a terrorist but he was really sorry and Robinson can never be forgiven for far less serious offences?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Jul 19 3.54pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Sorry but I’m not doing searches for you. What’s the point anyway when you’ve already decided the facts. I have searched! I cannot find anything. You said it existed so it's for you to prove it does or we must assume your memory is at fault. Or similar.
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 10 Jul 19 3.54pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Kim Darroch is pro EU and a globalist, am glad he's gone.
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Teddy Eagle 10 Jul 19 4.04pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have searched! I cannot find anything. You said it existed so it's for you to prove it does or we must assume your memory is at fault. Or similar. Once again you are under the impression that your acceptance of a situation is of paramount importance.
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becky over the moon 10 Jul 19 5.22pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have searched! I cannot find anything. You said it existed so it's for you to prove it does or we must assume your memory is at fault. Or similar. Have you listened to that Radio 4 interview with the former Crown Prosecutor for the North East that I posted? Or does it have to be in black and white for you t believe it?
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Stirlingsays 10 Jul 19 5.39pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Kim Darroch is pro EU and a globalist, am glad he's gone. Snap.....he's the usual identikit you find in those departments. I found his language overly emotional for a diplomat however Johnson was right that whoever leaked his emails is guilty of grave behaviour against the national interest. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jul 2019 5.43pm)
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DanH SW2 10 Jul 19 6.06pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle "Taking back control" by being America's laptop.
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Stirlingsays 10 Jul 19 6.12pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not one word of that was said by me. Nor does it represent my views in any way. Whether this is a deliberate distortion or a genuine misunderstanding is for everyone to decide. I know what my own opinion is. Of course everyone should be concerned about every kind of criminal activity and it's only human to be especially concerned when such activity threatens your children. That has never been in doubt but has also never been involved in the point that I have tried to make. The point is whether intervention from someone like "Robinson" helps or hinders dealing with these matters. I reject the contention, frequently repeated in this thread, that the authorities knowingly "allowed it to happen". In my view no responsible authority could possibly do that, so there has to be another explanation. It seems to me that it is likely that the scale of the problem wasn't well understood for quite some time and that those responsible tried to handle things quietly, under the radar, in an attempt to avoid causing major society issues. They thought, I think, that it could be nipped in the bud and contained. That it seems they were wrong doesn't mean their intentions were bad. So having realised the scale of the issue, and begun to get to grips with it, the last thing that's needed is a "Robinson" type sticking his oar in and disrupting their work. It must have been hard enough anyway having to deal with traumatised children and distressed parents without the muddy boots of "Robinson" getting in on the act. So my point has nothing to do with the anguish of the victims, much as my heart goes out to them. It is only that we need to support those we employ to look after these things for us, even when they make mistakes. We should not support those who interfere in that work. If anyone, "Robinson" included, has information which is pertinent to criminal activity then there is only one legitimate way to handle it. Present it to the Police! Responsible citizens don't go making videos about such things. Attention seekers do though. At least this saves me some of the searching back on your commentary on this affair. However, there are still some comments I will highlight later. You have repeated your apologist attitudes for the handling of this affair and no doubt how our authorities are continuing to handle it. I find your apologist attitude abhorrent and unethical. Thousands of girls were raped over decades and Police and authorities knew about it.....No one sacked. I also note that you reject anything other than the most charitable explanation for these circumstances.....Again in stark contrast to your attitude in other areas in this forum. All the smear mongers on the left and the ones shouting 'racist' are responsible for the climate of fear that contributed to the coward decisions taken in these cases. Here is an Ex-Detective who worked on sex cases in this area on investigations which were closed down. She pretty much describes what was going on in the most moderate way herself....she no doubt has to worry what is said on TV.....However, she says enough to make it plain who the kind of people are with apologist attitudes. It's those people with explanations like yours which enabled the continued rape of thousands of young and underage girls in this country. And you have the cheek to come on here and point fingers at Robinson.....He is shouting for it to be known about by everyone and you support those who wanted it to go under the radar. Without accountability nothing changes. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jul 2019 6.40pm)
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cryrst The garden of England 10 Jul 19 6.38pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not one word of that was said by me. Nor does it represent my views in any way. Whether this is a deliberate distortion or a genuine misunderstanding is for everyone to decide. I know what my own opinion is. Of course everyone should be concerned about every kind of criminal activity and it's only human to be especially concerned when such activity threatens your children. That has never been in doubt but has also never been involved in the point that I have tried to make. The point is whether intervention from someone like "Robinson" helps or hinders dealing with these matters. I reject the contention, frequently repeated in this thread, that the authorities knowingly "allowed it to happen". In my view no responsible authority could possibly do that, so there has to be another explanation. It seems to me that it is likely that the scale of the problem wasn't well understood for quite some time and that those responsible tried to handle things quietly, under the radar, in an attempt to avoid causing major society issues. They thought, I think, that it could be nipped in the bud and contained. That it seems they were wrong doesn't mean their intentions were bad. So having realised the scale of the issue, and begun to get to grips with it, the last thing that's needed is a "Robinson" type sticking his oar in and disrupting their work. It must have been hard enough anyway having to deal with traumatised children and distressed parents without the muddy boots of "Robinson" getting in on the act. So my point has nothing to do with the anguish of the victims, much as my heart goes out to them. It is only that we need to support those we employ to look after these things for us, even when they make mistakes. We should not support those who interfere in that work. If anyone, "Robinson" included, has information which is pertinent to criminal activity then there is only one legitimate way to handle it. Present it to the Police! Responsible citizens don't go making videos about such things. Attention seekers do though. You are on a wind up surely.
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