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 Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 30 Jul 24 8.48am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Why? How would it help the victims, or anyone else? It could enable their family to be traced and for completely innocent people to be harassed or worse. This event is already terrible and the last thing the police will want to do is create a situation where more bad things happen because of the understandable anger, or any desire for revenge. Your desperation to protect the perpetrator here is beyond pathetic, it's insane.
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Wilesy01  Bristol 30 Jul 24 8.56am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I suppose your money is on some young white scouser who got his gear nicked by another gang so had the hump. What I’m saying is that based on the only facts anyone has to go on there is nothing indicating race at this moment in time. Indeed this person is Cardiff born so is a UK national. Not sure what your ‘safe bet’ is and whether that correlates to any real crime statistics. Think some sting needs to be taken out of this thread because the unsubstantiated racial undertones are really quite depressing.
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Teddy Eagle  30 Jul 24 9.00am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Well there you go! That’s your opinion. It isn’t mine. Fact. Not opinion.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Jul 24 9.06am |
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Originally posted by Wilesy01
What I’m saying is that based on the only facts anyone has to go on there is nothing indicating race at this moment in time. Indeed this person is Cardiff born so is a UK national. Not sure what your ‘safe bet’ is and whether that correlates to any real crime statistics. Think some sting needs to be taken out of this thread because the unsubstantiated racial undertones are really quite depressing. I thought it was ‘from Cardiff’. Quite different if so. How many ‘radicalised’ men murder others these days? One a month now? Not that surprising now and not surprising that it’s expected that a radicalised Muslim committed the latest atrocity. Edit: he’s supposed to have been born in Cardiff by Rwandan parents. Edited by Rudi Hedman (30 Jul 2024 9.16am)
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| The Dolphin 30 Jul 24 9.12am |
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There will be a lot more to come out over the coming days, that is for certain.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 30 Jul 24 9.13am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Whole books can be written on that but the self hating stuff is a particular attribute advanced since WW2, Orwell was referring to it within socialism itself back then when it even pre-existed the wars. It started in communism and eventually spread throughout the left.....We could get into origins and talk about hyper empathy, and the anti masculinity complex that identifies a lot (not all) of the left but it's a long walk into the weeds. The self serving aspects is there wherever someone owes their living to the success of the current establishment. What goes on in individual's heads is impossible to know but essentially I believe in the biblical saying of 'by their fruits you will know them'....in other words the 'just following orders' element doesn't really cut it. Then again, the 'go along to get along' types are essentially the main number of any society. They will only speak out on the safe topics of their day. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Jul 2024 1.56am) The Chernobyl mini-series (which was excellent ), gave a vignette into a Leftist regime's attempts to lie, lie and lie again. To deny people the very evidence of their own eyes. Sadly, it now reminded me of the West and all the countries we are now living in. The management of the Southport atrocity will have all the hallmarks of StateCraft. Occasionally Reality impedes upon the rose-tinted image of society that is being pedalled. And impossible to hide the ugly truth. Reminds me of the Islamist in Sligo who murdered and castrated all those Gay men. The State went into a frenzy to cover up the story....unsuccessfully. And then we get the old hackneyed 'mental illness' card being played.
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 georgenorman 30 Jul 24 9.14am |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Your desperation to protect the perpetrator here is beyond pathetic, it's insane. Seconded.
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| YT Oxford 30 Jul 24 9.35am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Why? How would it help the victims, or anyone else? It could enable their family to be traced and for completely innocent people to be harassed or worse. This event is already terrible and the last thing the police will want to do is create a situation where more bad things happen because of the understandable anger, or any desire for revenge. So why publicly name any criminals then?
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Henry of Peckham  Eton Mess 30 Jul 24 9.36am |
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Originally posted by MFW94
Hes under 18 so I doubt they'll release his name anytime soon Understood but given the circumstances why should he be entitled to anything? A bullet between the eyes should have taken care of him. Not remotely interested in his mental state, his background or motives. His actions have been inexcusable, cruel and inhuman ... get rid of him and focus on the poor victims who really matter. Edited by Henry of Peckham (30 Jul 2024 9.41am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 24 9.42am |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Your desperation to protect the perpetrator here is beyond pathetic, it's insane. Why on earth do you think I am trying to protect the perpetrator? I want them to face justice and any punishment to be a strong deterrent to others. All I am concerned about is not making an awful situation even worse. Due process needs to be scrupulously followed to ensure no defence lawyer can work the system. Those not involved, but connected in some way to the perpetrator, need to be thought about. That’s far from insane. It’s trying to ensure sanity in the midst of bedlam.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 30 Jul 24 9.42am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
It's annoying the police refer to the Southport murderer as a " boy ".
Edited by HKOwen (30 Jul 2024 12.53am) The murderer of Jamie Bulger was a 'boy'. And legally the Southport murderer is a minor, without a vote or full adult criminal responsibility. personally, i find it more shocking that a child is killing other children. A bit like all the 14 year olds stabbing each other in Croydon.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 24 9.47am |
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Originally posted by YT
So why publicly name any criminals then? Is a reasonable question. I guess adults are more than likely to have broken the ties with the family home than youngsters and be seen as responsible for their own actions. Rightly or wrongly we tend to hold parents at least partly responsible for the actions of children., Just a guess though!
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