Well, I’ve been saying Roy out since the second season of his first stint, so maybe I should change tack now just to be different.

Seriously though I’ve never liked his tactics since the debacle with England and the flaws of his system have finally become all to visible even to those who couldn’t see clearly because he was a Croydon boy. Nobody wanted him to fail, but it’s difficult to argue against a change now.

i have always been a stalwart defender of Roy. Remembering PV, Alan Pardew, that useless dutch bloke, the treachery of so many proven managers like Sam Allardyce & Tony Pulis.....and all the other disappointments.

today ? i fear for a freefall upon losing Roy. And i also believe the problems we have, on the pitch, are the fault of the money men and the backroom bosses. Not necessarily Roy.

Hypothetical question : imagine the best managers in the World....Carlo Ancelloti, Jurgan Klopp, Zidane, Pep Guardiola.....how would any of them handle the current mess at Selhurst ? i reckon they would struggle and maybe throw the towel in.

And if we sack Roy and get a greenhorn, a question-mark manager then we will defo get relegated. Probably playing fun and exciting football while we do so.

officially i will abstain from any voting on the future of Roy. I like him. i also like Palace. If we lose to Sheffield, i will change my vote.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Honestly, relegation doesn't bother me... the board taking their money and running does... Parish needs to go...we should not be in this position and he's the captain at the helm.

This was once a quality forum....

When we get a situation when Roy makes public statements about bringing Kalvin Philips on board:

"'I would like to think that if Kalvin Phillips is available and a possibility for the club - once again, there will be financial restrictions, who knows whether the club feels they will be able to afford that"

and then we see this in the press:

"West Ham are close to agreeing a loan deal with Manchester City for Kalvin Phillips, 28, but Juventus could still make a late move for the England midfielder" we can only assume he is either a) delusional or b)completely delusional and totally off script.

If I were Parish, I would be apoplectic about my manager saying things like this in front of the media.

I said it once and I will say it twice. Roy will not be sacked.

Or does it reflect that fact that Roy is being fed the same false hope the fans are?

It's a bit like me telling my wife I hope to become a millionaire underwear model by the end of this year then just sitting around in my pants moaning about Palace.

There's little point talking of such aspirations when there's no action to deliver upon them.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!