Surely that crowbar is getting a little heavy by now

Arguably contributing reasons for incidents like this being bumped up the agenda are more nuanced than ‘globalisation’ and ‘mass migration’ which in every post you make seem to be the root cause of absolutely everything. Absolute broken record

1. Racism and violence used to be a constant in football. A lot of people have worked hard to reduce it. I don’t think they want it back - hence zero tolerance, headlines and examples being made, rightly, at every opportunity.

2. Football crowds have a pretty good selection of what politicians love to term ‘hard working folk’ - eg the non-elites, lower middle classes etc. ‘Real’ people. So when you see idiots feeling bold enough to partake in this sort of nonsense then you know the problem is still very much alive and kicking amongst the masses

3. It’s racist behaviour. So much try hard downplaying on here it’s unreal. Sure it’s low on the scale of ‘racism’, but does that make it acceptable and not racist? No.

Maybe I’m wrong and this sort of thing also frequently happens at the rugby.

If you don't see the relationship between certain issues and situations, then I'm not going to waste time explaining it to you for the hundredth time.

As I have said before. Racial taunting or insults are no different to any other antagonism. People have been programmed to think otherwise and encouraged to be easily offended rather than rise above it.
There is no comparison between racism in 2023 and in past decades. That is a positive, but the increasing mania surrounding race is definitely not. It is corrosive and divisive. It is, whether you want to hear it or not, a symptom of rapid demographic change and the politics and commercial aspects surrounding it.

It has it's place – but that place is not on every single thread, in every single post. It's intellectually dull and extremely boring to simply parrot the same stuff regardless of context.

I will say that there is a certain skill in tweaking it just enough each time. It's actually very effective at achieving the users aims – derail topical conversation and bring it back to the same narrow focus, then push the agenda.

I actually applaud the sanity and required... you usually only see this level of commitment and belief from religious people or politicians.

Maybe a fun exercise would be to create random threads and see how quickly those are brought back to mass immigration and elites.

All this passive aggressive nitpicking.....sound like bleeding old women.

There was no whining about putting a racism topic in Palace talk was there. In general on Hol people are always complaining about whether something is perfectly placed in a category....sometimes a little bit pedantically in my view.

It could be argued that 'racism' isn't really a pure football topic and is about crowd behaviour and only related to what goes on a pitch.

However, I find this complaining whenever a thread naturally develops ever slightly ridiculous.....this idea that as soon as someone strays off topic that the thread ends....just too anorak for me.

That most things come down to how a socially liberal society structures itself comes in for complaint amongst people on the right is hardly surprising. However, we could make the obvious point that the left are hardly creating original points themselves.
Always talking about racism themselves, attacking wealth, promoting equity, feminism and so on....Yet I doubt you chaps whine about those.....and somewhat ironically the whining is in itself repetitive.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 May 2023 1.49pm)

All this passive aggressive nitpicking.....sound like bleeding old women.

There was no whining about putting a racism topic in Palace talk was there. In general on Hol people are always complaining about whether something is perfectly placed in a category....sometimes a little bit pedantically in my view.

It could be argued that 'racism' isn't really a pure football topic and is about crowd behaviour and only related to what goes on a pitch.

However, I find this complaining whenever a thread naturally develops ever slightly ridiculous.....this idea that as soon as someone strays off topic that the thread ends....just too anorak for me.

That most things come down to how a socially liberal society structures itself comes in for complaint amongst people on the right is hardly surprising. However, we could make the obvious point that the left are hardly creating original points themselves.
Always talking about racism themselves, attacking wealth, promoting equity, feminism and so on....Yet I doubt you chaps whine about those.....and somewhat ironically the whining is in itself repetitive.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 May 2023 1.49pm)