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EddieMac 19 Aug 23 2.44am
Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid Agree with this 100%. Doucoure is a decent but the skillset isn't that hard to replace and his quality in the final third was questionable at times. He added solidity and consistency once he had a good coach. I don't subscribe to the "doing it all on his own" chat that was regularly thrown out last season although he benefitted from Roy's better organisation. I wouldn’t agree about his skillset being easy to replace. He is a class act.
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EddieMac

19 Aug 23 2.44am

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Agree with this 100%. Doucoure is a decent but the skillset isn't that hard to replace and his quality in the final third was questionable at times. He added solidity and consistency once he had a good coach.

I don't subscribe to the "doing it all on his own" chat that was regularly thrown out last season although he benefitted from Roy's better organisation.

I wouldn’t agree about his skillset being easy to replace. He is a class act.

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Aray South London 19 Aug 23 7.25am
I might be wrong about but I thought Lerma was brought in to replace Doucoure. They’re similar players when you think about it. Having them both on the pitch means we don’t play with a box-to-box midfielder like Hughes/Ahamada (Schlupp is now back up front, where he belongs?) But we don’t need to sell on the cheap - if ‘pool want him the price is £75m+ if you ask me. And some stats in this Tweet [Link] Edited by Aray (19 Aug 2023 7.43am)
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South London 19 Aug 23 7.25am

I might be wrong about but I thought Lerma was brought in to replace Doucoure. They’re similar players when you think about it. Having them both on the pitch means we don’t play with a box-to-box midfielder like Hughes/Ahamada (Schlupp is now back up front, where he belongs?)

But we don’t need to sell on the cheap - if ‘pool want him the price is £75m+ if you ask me.

And some stats in this Tweet

[Link]

Edited by Aray (19 Aug 2023 7.43am)

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Eaglecoops CR3 19 Aug 23 8.15am
Originally posted by Aray I might be wrong about but I thought Lerma was brought in to replace Doucoure. They’re similar players when you think about it. Having them both on the pitch means we don’t play with a box-to-box midfielder like Hughes/Ahamada (Schlupp is now back up front, where he belongs?) But we don’t need to sell on the cheap - if ‘pool want him the price is £75m+ if you ask me. And some stats in this Tweet [Link] Edited by Aray (19 Aug 2023 7.43am) I disagree. Lerma was in my opinion bought to compliment Doucoure. By playing two midfielders who can break up play, it releases Eze to have a free role through the middle. It also allows either/or Lerma or Doucoure to make the occasional move forward. I don’t think it’s any surprise that we looked solid in midfield against Sheffield because of the two playing together.
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CR3 19 Aug 23 8.15am

Originally posted by Aray

But we don’t need to sell on the cheap - if ‘pool want him the price is £75m+ if you ask me.

And some stats in this Tweet

[Link]

Edited by Aray (19 Aug 2023 7.43am)

I disagree. Lerma was in my opinion bought to compliment Doucoure. By playing two midfielders who can break up play, it releases Eze to have a free role through the middle. It also allows either/or Lerma or Doucoure to make the occasional move forward. I don’t think it’s any surprise that we looked solid in midfield against Sheffield because of the two playing together.

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Badger11 Beckenham 19 Aug 23 9.41am
Originally posted by Aray I might be wrong about but I thought Lerma was brought in to replace Doucoure. They’re similar players when you think about it. Having them both on the pitch means we don’t play with a box-to-box midfielder like Hughes/Ahamada (Schlupp is now back up front, where he belongs?) But we don’t need to sell on the cheap - if ‘pool want him the price is £75m+ if you ask me. And some stats in this Tweet [Link] Edited by Aray (19 Aug 2023 7.43am) I had the same thought, I suspect that the club thought this was a sensible plan. They could both play together but if Doucoure did leave they had a ready made replacement. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 19 Aug 23 9.41am

Originally posted by Aray

I might be wrong about but I thought Lerma was brought in to replace Doucoure. They’re similar players when you think about it. Having them both on the pitch means we don’t play with a box-to-box midfielder like Hughes/Ahamada (Schlupp is now back up front, where he belongs?)

But we don’t need to sell on the cheap - if ‘pool want him the price is £75m+ if you ask me.

And some stats in this Tweet

[Link]

Edited by Aray (19 Aug 2023 7.43am)

I had the same thought, I suspect that the club thought this was a sensible plan. They could both play together but if Doucoure did leave they had a ready made replacement.

One more point

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Putitout Oxford 19 Aug 23 9.55am
Originally posted by Aray I might be wrong about but I thought Lerma was brought in to replace Doucoure. They’re similar players when you think about it. Having them both on the pitch means we don’t play with a box-to-box midfielder like Hughes/Ahamada (Schlupp is now back up front, where he belongs?) But we don’t need to sell on the cheap - if ‘pool want him the price is £75m+ if you ask me. And some stats in this Tweet [Link] Edited by Aray (19 Aug 2023 7.43am) Lerma, does play box to box, he did for Bournemouth , and the Sheffield game showed he will for us. That doesn’t mean he can not tuck in and complement Doucoure, acting as cover for our ball carriers to carry and hurt oppositions. The ball carriers will lose the ball at times , and he gives more balance for retrieving the ball. Beside that he carries a bigger goal threat than Doucoure. The two together are vital to release our attacking game. Edited by Putitout (19 Aug 2023 9.58am)
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Putitout

Oxford 19 Aug 23 9.55am

Originally posted by Aray

But we don’t need to sell on the cheap - if ‘pool want him the price is £75m+ if you ask me.

And some stats in this Tweet

[Link]

Edited by Aray (19 Aug 2023 7.43am)

Lerma, does play box to box, he did for Bournemouth , and the Sheffield game showed he will for us.
That doesn’t mean he can not tuck in and complement Doucoure, acting as cover for our ball carriers to carry and hurt oppositions. The ball carriers will lose the ball at times , and he gives more balance for retrieving the ball. Beside that he carries a bigger goal threat than Doucoure. The two together are vital to release our attacking game.

Edited by Putitout (19 Aug 2023 9.58am)

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VinceHilaire London 19 Aug 23 10.22am
The reality is …… if indeed Liverpool offer £70m for the player, it would be madness to turn it down!!! It’s reported he wants to join Liverpool - and who could blame him! I’m sure Dougie will have drawn up a number of possible replacements - at a far reduced fee. We hate it, as he is a real asset to the club, but that’s football
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VinceHilaire

London 19 Aug 23 10.22am

The reality is …… if indeed Liverpool offer £70m for the player, it would be madness to turn it down!!!

It’s reported he wants to join Liverpool - and who could blame him!

I’m sure Dougie will have drawn up a number of possible replacements - at a far reduced fee.

We hate it, as he is a real asset to the club, but that’s football

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AERO 19 Aug 23 10.30am
Certain players are harder to replace .Olise for one at the price he was originally going for .70mil for Decoure is good business if we need to sell ?
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AERO

19 Aug 23 10.30am

Certain players are harder to replace .Olise for one at the price he was originally going for .70mil for Decoure is good business if we need to sell ?

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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 19 Aug 23 10.34am
We can’t sell him, I’m not buying another mug Attachment: IMG_8987.jpeg (2,423.09Kb)
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monkey

Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 19 Aug 23 10.34am

We can’t sell him, I’m not buying another mug

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southnorwoodhill 19 Aug 23 10.51am
We need to keep him like we need to keep the other core players. If the timing is right and they do well this season their collective value can only increase. Doucoure, Lerma, Eze. This an efficient triangle that puts me in mind of Vieira, Silva, Bergkamp and Tommasi, Emerson, Totti. That is to say two rugged ball winners and one sublime attacking midfielder / forward. We have a good balance in this area now. Edited by southnorwoodhill (19 Aug 2023 10.52am)
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We need to keep him like we need to keep the other core players. If the timing is right and they do well this season their collective value can only increase.
Doucoure, Lerma, Eze. This an efficient triangle that puts me in mind of Vieira, Silva, Bergkamp and Tommasi, Emerson, Totti. That is to say two rugged ball winners and one sublime attacking midfielder / forward.
We have a good balance in this area now.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (19 Aug 2023 10.52am)

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MrRobbo Chaldon 19 Aug 23 11.00am
Originally posted by Eaglecoops I disagree. Lerma was in my opinion bought to compliment Doucoure. By playing two midfielders who can break up play, it releases Eze to have a free role through the middle. It also allows either/or Lerma or Doucoure to make the occasional move forward. I don’t think it’s any surprise that we looked solid in midfield against Sheffield because of the two playing together. 100% In modern football language its a 'double pivot'. Which is pretty fashionable now. City play it. It basically means we now play a 4-2-3-1. Which will help us to maintain and build possession, and also allows Eze a bit more freedom. From his Bournemouth exploits (and against Sheffield) Lerma seams to be the one that will have a little more licence.
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Chaldon 19 Aug 23 11.00am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

100%

In modern football language its a 'double pivot'. Which is pretty fashionable now. City play it.

It basically means we now play a 4-2-3-1. Which will help us to maintain and build possession, and also allows Eze a bit more freedom.

From his Bournemouth exploits (and against Sheffield) Lerma seams to be the one that will have a little more licence.

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dreamwaverider London 19 Aug 23 12.01pm
Originally posted by MrRobbo 100% In modern football language its a 'double pivot'. Which is pretty fashionable now. City play it. It basically means we now play a 4-2-3-1. Which will help us to maintain and build possession, and also allows Eze a bit more freedom. From his Bournemouth exploits (and against Sheffield) Lerma seams to be the one that will have a little more licence. All getting very technical Im always shouting at them to unload them, then hoof it up the pitch run run run then score. Couldn't be simpler. Olise understands. Listen to his post match interviews.
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Originally posted by MrRobbo

100%

In modern football language its a 'double pivot'. Which is pretty fashionable now. City play it.

It basically means we now play a 4-2-3-1. Which will help us to maintain and build possession, and also allows Eze a bit more freedom.

From his Bournemouth exploits (and against Sheffield) Lerma seams to be the one that will have a little more licence.

All getting very technical
Im always shouting at them to unload them, then hoof it up the pitch run run run then score.
Couldn't be simpler.
Olise understands. Listen to his post match interviews.

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Teddy Eagle 19 Aug 23 12.32pm
As good as he's been for us and even by current prices are they really going to pay £70m+ for him? If they're that keen then how about Curtis Jones and £35m?
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Teddy Eagle

19 Aug 23 12.32pm

As good as he's been for us and even by current prices are they really going to pay £70m+ for him?
If they're that keen then how about Curtis Jones and £35m?

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