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auk Flag 09 Oct 22 10.07pm Send a Private Message to auk Add auk as a friend

Re the midfield, would it help if Hughes had more playing time?

His pace isn't great, but at least he doesn't shy away from tackles.

 

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Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 09 Oct 22 10.25pm Send a Private Message to Qwijibo Add Qwijibo as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Probably our poorest performance of the season (bearing in mind the quality of the opposition) and yet 3 valuable points and hopefully the start of a decent run.

I like Doucoure BUT he needs support. We can't afford to have two flaky players as his midfield partners no matter how good they are on the ball - we need to have the ball first before they can show their skills with it.

Like last week - put the right type of ball into the box and our strikers will prosper. Hope Edouard can get a run going now and build up his confidence.


It does seem obvious doesn't it? SURELY we're aware of this. I've no doubt that Patrick bloody Vieira of all people understands what a combative central midfield looks like. There was a point when Doucouré had a chat with the ref when he was already on a yellow and Ward was there to offer a little diplomacy, no doubt intently aware that his defence only had Doucouré as a shield.

It seems we took a gamble and went all-in on Gallagher becoming available. I have a suspicion that even in September we were still taking a gamble that he wouldn't get games at Chelsea and would become available in January. Unfortunately he does seem to be getting enough appearances at Chelsea to justify staying for some time yet. I suspect we've moved on now so maybe there's someone awesome out there who costs not a lot.

Also, regarding Doucouré - he's only played 8 premier league games. Look at how long it took Partey and Xhaka to learn how to boss a midfield.

 

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Luarddd Flag Redhill 09 Oct 22 11.00pm Send a Private Message to Luarddd Add Luarddd as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

I think Leeds will be bottom three or thereabouts and it was a massive three points.

The bench again spelled out how hard this season is going to be.

Aside from the obvious when he got caught I find the criticism of Guaita's kicking a bit of a head scratcher when he's put under pressure by such terrible back passes and the defence as a whole looked so panicked early on.

I'm disappointed by the impact of Doucoure. He doesn't seem particularly effective when we don't have the ball, doesn't seem to protect it very well under pressure or quick to pick out a forward pass. He rightly got hooked against Chelsea after letting Gallagher go a couple of times. Defensive mid is the easiest

position on the pitch in the modern game IMO.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (09 Oct 2022 8.42pm)

How can you be disappointed with doucoures impact , he’s been pure class since he came in. His role is one you don’t notice unless you’re focusing on him. But that’s why it’s so useful. Yes , today it wasn’t his best performance but every other game he’s done a class job.

 

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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 09 Oct 22 11.14pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by Luarddd

How can you be disappointed with doucoures impact , he’s been pure class since he came in. His role is one you don’t notice unless you’re focusing on him. But that’s why it’s so useful. Yes , today it wasn’t his best performance but every other game he’s done a class job.

As I've indicated above, I don't think he protects the ball well enough or passes forward enough. Plays too many square or backward balls. He's been ok but pure class is a real stretch in my opinion. And not being noticed playing centre mid is hardly a plus point.

We played with the same set up last week with Eze and Olise in front of him.

Most of our problems today came when we had possession in our own third rather than Leeds bringing the game to us.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (09 Oct 2022 11.21pm)

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Oct 22 11.24pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Whilst enjoying a tipple or two with my dear wife in a Public House tonight I mentioned that we would not be out had we been defeated. Her response was that when we suffer such a fate misery attaches to me akin to fungus to a dying tree.

 

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Dubai Eagle Flag 10 Oct 22 6.56am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Just wanted to mention - Something happened at the back yesterday, or Vincente saw something that needed reporting to PV - on about 15 minutes (just after their goal) Vincente said something to a ball boy who took it directly to the dug out - maybe that had something to do with his wayward clearances for a short time ?


 

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 10 Oct 22 7.22am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Probably our poorest performance of the season (bearing in mind the quality of the opposition) and yet 3 valuable points and hopefully the start of a decent run.

I like Doucoure BUT he needs support. We can't afford to have two flaky players as his midfield partners no matter how good they are on the ball - we need to have the ball first before they can show their skills with it.

Like last week - put the right type of ball into the box and our strikers will prosper. Hope Edouard can get a run going now and build up his confidence.

What the two flaky players who created the first goal and the other that scored the second

 


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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 10 Oct 22 7.30am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

PVs post match comments on Eze after the game,"There's still much more to come from Ebs," Vieira said.

"I think he used to play a little bit on the left-hand side, and at the moment he is playing more centrally.

"He just needs to find the right position, to be a little bit more high on the field, because he has the ability to score goals and to create chances, so it was a good performance from him and he's getting better and better."

Err, number 10 role, heres a clue its already on his back

 


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Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 10 Oct 22 8.16am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Sorry, to be clear (as probably the only poster to critcise him), my observations regarding Doucoure aren't based purely on today.

He's generally tidy but I think it's an exaggeration to say he's been doing it on his own over the course of the seven games this season.

I expected a bit more based on some of the narrative surrounding his signing and taking him off today for Luka didn't see to upset things much.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (09 Oct 2022 10.09pm)

This is the expectations of some when we buy a player with a good reputation. We have to remember we are 'just below mid table' Crystal Palace, not the top six. This is our level. CD is a great player for such a team as us, but he would probably not get onto the bench of a Chelsea or Arsenal, certainly not start.

On that basis, I think he has been a great addition to the first 11.

 

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 10 Oct 22 8.22am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

This is the expectations of some when we buy a player with a good reputation. We have to remember we are 'just below mid table' Crystal Palace, not the top six. This is our level. CD is a great player for such a team as us, but he would probably not get onto the bench of a Chelsea or Arsenal, certainly not start.

On that basis, I think he has been a great addition to the first 11.

Agreed

 


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Elpis Flag In a pub 10 Oct 22 8.27am Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

PVs post match comments on Eze after the game,"There's still much more to come from Ebs," Vieira said.

"I think he used to play a little bit on the left-hand side, and at the moment he is playing more centrally.

"He just needs to find the right position, to be a little bit more high on the field, because he has the ability to score goals and to create chances, so it was a good performance from him and he's getting better and better."

He doesnt need to find the right position he needs to find space . If Ive ever seen a player who should be in a free role to do as he pleases and enjoy himself its Ebs .

 

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 10 Oct 22 8.39am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Elpis

He doesnt need to find the right position he needs to find space . If Ive ever seen a player who should be in a free role to do as he pleases and enjoy himself its Ebs .

if only PV, would do that, because we will have a bid for him at the end of the season, we can't refuse, 100m plus, make the most of him while we still have him, he will score goals like yesterdays every game if we give him the opportunity

 


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