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Swindy Bromley 01 Oct 22 7.56pm
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Bromley 01 Oct 22 7.56pm

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You What se25 01 Oct 22 8.00pm
Originally posted by Swindy I am afraid we get what we deserve. Today, in the first half, despite being ahead, for a fair while, it was again a case of 'can we have the ball back Mister ?', giving them so much possession and making mistakes on the edge of our own box. We could talk until the cows come home again about the thinly-veiled display of refereeing bias towards the bigger club (how many times did he let Chelsea play on with Palace players down ?, the Tiago incident, the number of times Ayew was clumped and the yellow cards ignored, yet Edouard gets one for an innocuous first challenge). The fact remains though that we will not get better results against the top teams until we have an owner who rather than spending time on TV crowing about our academy, from which any players produced are shipped away for a whole season on loan and therefore useless to us, but is prepared to do transfer windows properly rather than preside over the very poor summer one. I believe we now have Andersen, Clyne and Richards injured without masses of cover. Despite 10 years of Premiership money we again played today Ward (great servant etc), who played in the Championship and a 35 year old goalkeeper whose kicking is a complete embarassment and who waved the winner into the net. On top of that we have Luka, Riedewald and probably Jordan Ayew who need upgrading. In the Premiership, given the riches, you need to keep evolving (I don't necessarily mean the West Ham cliche of 'moving to the next level'), but right now it feels like we are competing on the cheap again. I think that’s a bit rich about Guaita. He’s a great keeper for us and did well to get his fingertips on to Gallagher’s shot. Wouldn’t say his kicking is embarrassing either!
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se25 01 Oct 22 8.00pm

Originally posted by Swindy

I am afraid we get what we deserve.
Today, in the first half, despite being ahead, for a fair while, it was again a case of 'can we have the ball back Mister ?', giving them so much possession and making mistakes on the edge of our own box.
We could talk until the cows come home again about the thinly-veiled display of refereeing bias towards the bigger club (how many times did he let Chelsea play on with Palace players down ?, the Tiago incident, the number of times Ayew was clumped and the yellow cards ignored, yet Edouard gets one for an innocuous first challenge).
The fact remains though that we will not get better results against the top teams until we have an owner who rather than spending time on TV crowing about our academy, from which any players produced are shipped away for a whole season on loan and therefore useless to us, but is prepared to do transfer windows properly rather than preside over the very poor summer one.
I believe we now have Andersen, Clyne and Richards injured without masses of cover.
Despite 10 years of Premiership money we again played today Ward (great servant etc), who played in the Championship and a 35 year old goalkeeper whose kicking is a complete embarassment and who waved the winner into the net.
On top of that we have Luka, Riedewald and probably Jordan Ayew who need upgrading.
In the Premiership, given the riches, you need to keep evolving (I don't necessarily mean the West Ham cliche of 'moving to the next level'), but right now it feels like we are competing on the cheap again.

I think that’s a bit rich about Guaita. He’s a great keeper for us and did well to get his fingertips on to Gallagher’s shot. Wouldn’t say his kicking is embarrassing either!

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Casual Orpington 01 Oct 22 8.12pm
Originally posted by Helmet46 I’m more pissed off that I was surrounded by Chelsea fans in the Holmesdale lower. Was you? I was in block A , never saw or heard a Chelsea fan all game ?
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Orpington 01 Oct 22 8.12pm

Originally posted by Helmet46

I’m more pissed off that I was surrounded by Chelsea fans in the Holmesdale lower.

Was you? I was in block A , never saw or heard a Chelsea fan all game ?

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joe_cpfc Basingstoke 01 Oct 22 8.19pm
I don't think it's any coincidence that most of the goals we concede seem to come after Viera makes his changes. I really like him, the players seems to love him and I would love him to be a massive success with us but I think at the moment he's one of the problems. His changes are strange and seem to make us weaker every time. Eze wasn't wasting possession and was gaining us a lot of yards and getting us up the pitch with his runs and against a team like Chelsea you need to get up the pitch however you can and he was the one making that happen. Doucoure was extremely strong defensively but for some weird reason he took him off, disrupting the balance and we looked much weaker. Defensively we need upgrades urgently. Ward is finished, that first goal was a joke. Mitchell, Im sorry but he's far from a 1st choice premier league left back. Disagree about Ayew. I think this season he's been excellent. He keeps the ball so well and his work rate is ridiculously good. Im extremely worried about this season.
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Basingstoke 01 Oct 22 8.19pm

I don't think it's any coincidence that most of the goals we concede seem to come after Viera makes his changes. I really like him, the players seems to love him and I would love him to be a massive success with us but I think at the moment he's one of the problems. His changes are strange and seem to make us weaker every time. Eze wasn't wasting possession and was gaining us a lot of yards and getting us up the pitch with his runs and against a team like Chelsea you need to get up the pitch however you can and he was the one making that happen. Doucoure was extremely strong defensively but for some weird reason he took him off, disrupting the balance and we looked much weaker. Defensively we need upgrades urgently. Ward is finished, that first goal was a joke. Mitchell, Im sorry but he's far from a 1st choice premier league left back.
Disagree about Ayew. I think this season he's been excellent. He keeps the ball so well and his work rate is ridiculously good.
Im extremely worried about this season.

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Casual Orpington 01 Oct 22 8.24pm
It’s usually the same against the top clubs. Match them for most of the game then lose 1-0, 2-1, the quality usually beats us in the end. Was gutted, but not surprised, we rarely gat a last minute goal, but regularly concede them, that’s a worry, either fitness or more likely, mentally. 7 games so far. 4 against the top 4 =1 point 3 against the rest . 2 draws and a win. = 5 points. That’s about right I think. A point at Liverpool and Newcastle is decent this year. Lose to city, Arsenal , Chelsea (2 nil up at city and a possible goal disallowed, which would have been 3-0, but they are levels above us . Well in the games at Arsenal and Chelsea, could have got points) Win against villa and a couple of draws (Viera at fault for 2 points dropped against Burnley with the subs , in my opinion) Thought our line up today was very attacking , liked it. Get Malcolm on for minutes, when it’s sensible. Think we will be a match for most teams. Gutted. But think over the season we will be more than competitive .
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Orpington 01 Oct 22 8.24pm

It’s usually the same against the top clubs. Match them for most of the game then lose 1-0, 2-1, the quality usually beats us in the end.
Was gutted, but not surprised, we rarely gat a last minute goal, but regularly concede them, that’s a worry, either fitness or more likely, mentally.
7 games so far. 4 against the top 4 =1 point
3 against the rest . 2 draws and a win. = 5 points.
That’s about right I think.
A point at Liverpool and Newcastle is decent this year.
Lose to city, Arsenal , Chelsea (2 nil up at city and a possible goal disallowed, which would have been 3-0, but they are levels above us . Well in the games at Arsenal and Chelsea, could have got points)
Win against villa and a couple of draws (Viera at fault for 2 points dropped against Burnley with the subs , in my opinion)

Thought our line up today was very attacking , liked it. Get Malcolm on for minutes, when it’s sensible. Think we will be a match for most teams.

Gutted. But think over the season we will be more than competitive .

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Rainforest London England 01 Oct 22 8.58pm
Originally posted by Swindy I am afraid we get what we deserve. Today, in the first half, despite being ahead, for a fair while, it was again a case of 'can we have the ball back Mister ?', giving them so much possession and making mistakes on the edge of our own box. We could talk until the cows come home again about the thinly-veiled display of refereeing bias towards the bigger club (how many times did he let Chelsea play on with Palace players down ?, the Tiago incident, the number of times Ayew was clumped and the yellow cards ignored, yet Edouard gets one for an innocuous first challenge). The fact remains though that we will not get better results against the top teams until we have an owner who rather than spending time on TV crowing about our academy, from which any players produced are shipped away for a whole season on loan and therefore useless to us, but is prepared to do transfer windows properly rather than preside over the very poor summer one. I believe we now have Andersen, Clyne and Richards injured without masses of cover. Despite 10 years of Premiership money we again played today Ward (great servant etc), who played in the Championship and a 35 year old goalkeeper whose kicking is a complete embarassment and who waved the winner into the net. On top of that we have Luka, Riedewald and probably Jordan Ayew who need upgrading. In the Premiership, given the riches, you need to keep evolving (I don't necessarily mean the West Ham cliche of 'moving to the next level'), but right now it feels like we are competing on the cheap again. Unfortunately, under Viera we see more back passes than forward through balls.
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London England 01 Oct 22 8.58pm

Originally posted by Swindy

I am afraid we get what we deserve.
Today, in the first half, despite being ahead, for a fair while, it was again a case of 'can we have the ball back Mister ?', giving them so much possession and making mistakes on the edge of our own box.
We could talk until the cows come home again about the thinly-veiled display of refereeing bias towards the bigger club (how many times did he let Chelsea play on with Palace players down ?, the Tiago incident, the number of times Ayew was clumped and the yellow cards ignored, yet Edouard gets one for an innocuous first challenge).
The fact remains though that we will not get better results against the top teams until we have an owner who rather than spending time on TV crowing about our academy, from which any players produced are shipped away for a whole season on loan and therefore useless to us, but is prepared to do transfer windows properly rather than preside over the very poor summer one.
I believe we now have Andersen, Clyne and Richards injured without masses of cover.
Despite 10 years of Premiership money we again played today Ward (great servant etc), who played in the Championship and a 35 year old goalkeeper whose kicking is a complete embarassment and who waved the winner into the net.
On top of that we have Luka, Riedewald and probably Jordan Ayew who need upgrading.
In the Premiership, given the riches, you need to keep evolving (I don't necessarily mean the West Ham cliche of 'moving to the next level'), but right now it feels like we are competing on the cheap again.

Unfortunately, under Viera we see more back passes than forward through balls.

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Swindy Bromley 01 Oct 22 9.22pm
'You what' He is not a great keeper. Cannot kick & let's too many balls travel right across the 6 yard box without dealing with them & don't get me started on all the short passing across the back four. He is 35 and in the last year of his contract and we have 2 keepers (when Butland is fit) in their 20s so the clues should be there.
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Bromley 01 Oct 22 9.22pm

'You what'
He is not a great keeper. Cannot kick & let's too many balls travel right across the 6 yard box without dealing with them & don't get me started on all the short passing across the back four. He is 35 and in the last year of his contract and we have 2 keepers (when Butland is fit) in their 20s so the clues should be there.

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 01 Oct 22 9.26pm
I think today was the day that our lack of squad depth has really been spelled out and there was a feeling of inevitability at the end. We were unable to cope at all with the loss of Andersen from an attacking perspective as much as defensive and there was nothing to change up with from the bench when the team were tiring. The decision not to acquire another attacking option when Benteke was given the push is criminal and this is going to be a very tough season.
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I think today was the day that our lack of squad depth has really been spelled out and there was a feeling of inevitability at the end.

We were unable to cope at all with the loss of Andersen from an attacking perspective as much as defensive and there was nothing to change up with from the bench when the team were tiring.

The decision not to acquire another attacking option when Benteke was given the push is criminal and this is going to be a very tough season.

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 01 Oct 22 9.31pm
Originally posted by Swindy 'You what' He is not a great keeper. Cannot kick & let's too many balls travel right across the 6 yard box without dealing with them & don't get me started on all the short passing across the back four. He is 35 and in the last year of his contract and we have 2 keepers (when Butland is fit) in their 20s so the clues should be there. I was sat behind the flight of Gallagher's strike and he had no chance. Did well to get anywhere near it. You're talking bollocks about waving. Some of the backpasses he received today were a joke. The last of our problems.
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01 Oct 22 9.31pm

Originally posted by Swindy

I was sat behind the flight of Gallagher's strike and he had no chance. Did well to get anywhere near it. You're talking bollocks about waving. Some of the backpasses he received today were a joke. The last of our problems.

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Casual Orpington 01 Oct 22 9.44pm
Playing out from the back only works if Anderson plays. Without him, they are clueless at passing. If there’s no Anderson , we need to lay Mateta and knock it long.
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Orpington 01 Oct 22 9.44pm

Playing out from the back only works if Anderson plays. Without him, they are clueless at passing. If there’s no Anderson , we need to lay Mateta and knock it long.

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PatrickA London 01 Oct 22 9.54pm
We seem to be attempting to disprove the adage that teams that go ahead in the Premier League rarely drop points. The sooner we can break the habit the better. We had a few opportunities to go two ahead today and it’s difficult to feel too confident when only one ahead. Even against Villa, which we deserved to win, the match only seemed over when Mateta scored the third. And in that game they hit the bar at 1-1 which may well have led to a different outcome. I think we’re playing reasonably well this season, but we’re not collecting the points that we should be. I’m hoping we can stay clear of injuries and strengthen in January, but I don’t foresee an easy season. We have to pick up some wins and occasional draws and decent pointless performances will make make it a nervy time.
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London 01 Oct 22 9.54pm

We seem to be attempting to disprove the adage that teams that go ahead in the Premier League rarely drop points.
The sooner we can break the habit the better.
We had a few opportunities to go two ahead today and it’s difficult to feel too confident when only one ahead.
Even against Villa, which we deserved to win, the match only seemed over when Mateta scored the third.
And in that game they hit the bar at 1-1 which may well have led to a different outcome.
I think we’re playing reasonably well this season, but we’re not collecting the points that we should be.
I’m hoping we can stay clear of injuries and strengthen in January, but I don’t foresee an easy season.
We have to pick up some wins and occasional draws and decent pointless performances will make make it a nervy time.

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SpyroCrystal 01 Oct 22 9.56pm
Gallagher is a top player hate seeing him scoring against us with that scum Chelski. Big up the Palace!!!!
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SpyroCrystal 01 Oct 22 9.56pm

Gallagher is a top player hate seeing him scoring against us with that scum Chelski.

Big up the Palace!!!!

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