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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 17 Apr 22 8.40pm | |
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
Most certainly, and a sure indication of psychological capitulation by Vieira. I was right about one thing, I thought Vieira would start cautiously, and when I saw that line-up and the mode they were laid out I thought Hodgson had returned and we were playing for a draw... Viera has form in doing this, different kettle of fish of course but did this frequently whilst at NYCFC.
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glazedallover Allier 17 Apr 22 8.42pm | |
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Originally posted by CT Charlie
I thought we did well actually, and I'll defend PV's game plan. 1) We were never going to dominate play. We needed to take our chances, and we missed 3 good ones: Andersen's header, Kouyate's header, and Kouyate's drive off the post. 2) Defensively, our formation and team play was fine. Only two individual errors led to the goals. Chelsea seldom threatened. 3) Up front, I suspect PV hoped Wilf would have a greater chance of earning a penalty if he played nearer the center. 4) Our lack of pressure seemed more of a tactical choice than a matter of Gallagher's absence. I think PV feared that Chelsea would burn us if we tried to apply pressure high. 5) As for man selection, I believe PV wanted to spread the wealth, share the load, reward the veterans. I can't argue.
good post mate.
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PatrickA London 17 Apr 22 8.46pm | |
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Agree with much of this and I understood the tactical approach.For me where it fell down is that Ward is not a wing back and his role seemed largely redundant as he offered little going forward. Originally posted by CT Charlie
I thought we did well actually, and I'll defend PV's game plan. 1) We were never going to dominate play. We needed to take our chances, and we missed 3 good ones: Andersen's header, Kouyate's header, and Kouyate's drive off the post. 2) Defensively, our formation and team play was fine. Only two individual errors led to the goals. Chelsea seldom threatened. 3) Up front, I suspect PV hoped Wilf would have a greater chance of earning a penalty if he played nearer the center. 4) Our lack of pressure seemed more of a tactical choice than a matter of Gallagher's absence. I think PV feared that Chelsea would burn us if we tried to apply pressure high. 5) As for man selection, I believe PV wanted to spread the wealth, share the load, reward the veterans. I can't argue.
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lefty27 ipswich 17 Apr 22 8.48pm | |
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People laud our fans should read some of the s***e on this thread. Proud of the boys and the start of something special under PV.
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palace chick South Croydon 17 Apr 22 8.55pm | |
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Great day out. Don’t get these games often enough. Perhaps that will change with Vieria at the helm? Thought subs were strange taking off Macca and Schlup and bringing on two forwards. We lost our midfield which resulted in 2nd Chelsea goal. Then we took of Kouyate for Luka. If anything we needed those two together rather than bringing on two forwards leaving us short in midfield. Oh well, trip to Wembley and staying in the premiership is a great season for a club like ours :-)
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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 17 Apr 22 9.11pm | |
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Originally posted by palace chick
Great day out. Don’t get these games often enough. Perhaps that will change with Vieria at the helm? Thought subs were strange taking off Macca and Schlup and bringing on two forwards. We lost our midfield which resulted in 2nd Chelsea goal. Then we took of Kouyate for Luka. If anything we needed those two together rather than bringing on two forwards leaving us short in midfield. Oh well, trip to Wembley and staying in the premiership is a great season for a club like ours :-) Chelsea are not that good, we forgot to attack, we should have played 4-3.3 with the normal back four, kouyate and MacArthur in midfield, Olise, Mateta and wilf, as normal and Eze chasing down like Gallagher, if he wasn't doing it replace him with Schlupp, not play a completly new system FFS, PV f****d up
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Casual Orpington 17 Apr 22 9.15pm | |
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We had 3 decent chances. Anderson x 2 , Kouyate, don’t take them. That’s the difference. I had Anderson first goal 125/1, hit the post Anderson 2 goals or more,900/1 missed an open goal header Would have 10 grand. But I’d give more for 1 Fa cup.
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Painter Croydon 17 Apr 22 9.43pm | |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
Chelsea are not that good, we forgot to attack, we should have played 4-3.3 with the normal back four, kouyate and MacArthur in midfield, Olise, Mateta and wilf, as normal and Eze chasing down like Gallagher, if he wasn't doing it replace him with Schlupp, not play a completly new system FFS, PV f****d up FFS Chelsea are on a totally different level to us. They have beaten us the last 10 times, we have played them, they just beat Real Madrid away, current Champions league and World Club holders. Without Gallagher, who is key to his normal system wasn't available, PV tried to shuffle his pack, it worked in the first half, Chelsea reorganised at halftime.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Apr 22 9.46pm | |
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Originally posted by Painter
FFS Chelsea are on a totally different level to us. They have beaten us the last 10 times, we have played them, they just beat Real Madrid away, current Champions league and World Club holders. Without Gallagher, who is key to his normal system wasn't available, PV tried to shuffle his pack, it worked in the first half, Chelsea reorganised at halftime. That seems quite accurate. Eze has ability of course, but there’s a lot more he needs to do to fulfil any potential.
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Nubes London 17 Apr 22 10.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
That seems quite accurate. Eze has ability of course, but there’s a lot more he needs to do to fulfil any potential. It looked like he was playing within himself. He prob needs a run of games.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Apr 22 10.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Nubes
It looked like he was playing within himself. He prob needs a run of games. Yep, agree there too. Probably both a physical and psychological couple of hurdles to overcome and get back in the game. What worries me about Eze is he’s such a natural talent but that only gets you so far. Not my favourite person but ol’ Cristiano is a perfect example of a very talented footballer who didn’t rest on what he had ‘God-given’, as they say.
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baldeagle73 Leamington spa 17 Apr 22 10.43pm | |
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Enjoyable day all around only spoiled by chelsea fans casual racism and bullying of people with kids in the que for the train they really are a different breed of human
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