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southnorwoodhill 07 Mar 22 9.37am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild Mateta seems to have a big heart and a big personality and so it's hard not to like him. He doesn't fit with football's paradigm of what makes a good footballer in many senses, but perhaps that is why he is proving effective; the Mateta Paradox, if you will. I love debating and discussing players, but I couldn't care less if I'm proved right or wrong provided we win and play well. I also think Mateta doing what he's done could be good for the whole squad as it shows you can earn a place in the team if you work hard, for whatever opinions are on JPM's talents are no one can question the work he is putting in. Good points. It's great to see players playing with enthusiam and positivity. Mateta and CG are right up there, and it seems to rubbed off on Wilf, who hasn't had a moan for a couple of games!
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Mateta seems to have a big heart and a big personality and so it's hard not to like him. He doesn't fit with football's paradigm of what makes a good footballer in many senses, but perhaps that is why he is proving effective; the Mateta Paradox, if you will. I love debating and discussing players, but I couldn't care less if I'm proved right or wrong provided we win and play well. I also think Mateta doing what he's done could be good for the whole squad as it shows you can earn a place in the team if you work hard, for whatever opinions are on JPM's talents are no one can question the work he is putting in.

Good points. It's great to see players playing with enthusiam and positivity. Mateta and CG are right up there, and it seems to rubbed off on Wilf, who hasn't had a moan for a couple of games!

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PatrickA London 07 Mar 22 9.43am
Agree with much of this. Personally I’m happy to be proved wrong about a player if it’s for the benefit of the club. I was wrong about Mitchell at the beginning of the season who I didn’t think was ready, but he has been a revelation. I may be wrong about Mateta who I couldn’t see had much merit until recently. Sometimes it takes a while for a player to settle as in the case of e.g Jedinak and Murray. Conversely, some players don’t suit particular clubs despite having proven quality. For us AWB looked a star in the making from his first game and it looked like he would go straight to the top. Now he’s lost his place at Utd and has looked lost for long spells with the different expectations seemingly overwhelming him. I doubt Lukaku will work at Chelsea despite the high price tag. The transfer market can be a bit of a lottery, but fortunately for once we did very well in the summer with our selections. Originally posted by taylors lovechild Mateta seems to have a big heart and a big personality and so it's hard not to like him. He doesn't fit with football's paradigm of what makes a good footballer in many senses, but perhaps that is why he is proving effective; the Mateta Paradox, if you will. I love debating and discussing players, but I couldn't care less if I'm proved right or wrong provided we win and play well. I also think Mateta doing what he's done could be good for the whole squad as it shows you can earn a place in the team if you work hard, for whatever opinions are on JPM's talents are no one can question the work he is putting in.
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London 07 Mar 22 9.43am

Agree with much of this.
Personally I’m happy to be proved wrong about a player if it’s for the benefit of the club.
I was wrong about Mitchell at the beginning of the season who I didn’t think was ready, but he has been a revelation.
I may be wrong about Mateta who I couldn’t see had much merit until recently.
Sometimes it takes a while for a player to settle as in the case of e.g Jedinak and Murray.
Conversely, some players don’t suit particular clubs despite having proven quality.
For us AWB looked a star in the making from his first game and it looked like he would go straight to the top.
Now he’s lost his place at Utd and has looked lost for long spells with the different expectations seemingly overwhelming him.
I doubt Lukaku will work at Chelsea despite the high price tag.
The transfer market can be a bit of a lottery, but fortunately for once we did very well in the summer with our selections.

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silvertop Portishead 07 Mar 22 9.51am
I've said this before, but Benteke is a great forward "defender" to bring on if we are leading and there are only 15-20 mins to go. Bullies and draws defenders, wins all hoofed balls in the air and buys fee kicks in the attacking half that all but snuffs out the other side's momentum and hope and wastes valuable seconds. Not one to bring on if we are chasing a game as he can't seem to score a goal.
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Portishead 07 Mar 22 9.51am

I've said this before, but Benteke is a great forward "defender" to bring on if we are leading and there are only 15-20 mins to go.

Bullies and draws defenders, wins all hoofed balls in the air and buys fee kicks in the attacking half that all but snuffs out the other side's momentum and hope and wastes valuable seconds.

Not one to bring on if we are chasing a game as he can't seem to score a goal.

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Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 07 Mar 22 10.01am
Originally posted by silvertop I've said this before, but Benteke is a great forward "defender" to bring on if we are leading and there are only 15-20 mins to go. Bullies and draws defenders, wins all hoofed balls in the air and buys fee kicks in the attacking half that all but snuffs out the other side's momentum and hope and wastes valuable seconds. Not one to bring on if we are chasing a game as he can't seem to score a goal. Bullies defenders? I would love to see that You Tube video. The huge difference between him and Mateta is that the latter is actually physical (and present) in the six yard box when it counts. It's been said multiple times, but would Benteke have ended up scrapping on the goal line when he had originally won the ball in the air 50 yards away?
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Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 07 Mar 22 10.01am

Originally posted by silvertop

I've said this before, but Benteke is a great forward "defender" to bring on if we are leading and there are only 15-20 mins to go.

Bullies and draws defenders, wins all hoofed balls in the air and buys fee kicks in the attacking half that all but snuffs out the other side's momentum and hope and wastes valuable seconds.

Not one to bring on if we are chasing a game as he can't seem to score a goal.

Bullies defenders? I would love to see that You Tube video. The huge difference between him and Mateta is that the latter is actually physical (and present) in the six yard box when it counts.

It's been said multiple times, but would Benteke have ended up scrapping on the goal line when he had originally won the ball in the air 50 yards away?

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cryrst The garden of England 07 Mar 22 10.04am
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill Good points. It's great to see players playing with enthusiam and positivity. Mateta and CG are right up there, and it seems to rubbed off on Wilf, who hasn't had a moan for a couple of games! Mateta seems to play the ref a bit. Pointing to his wrist when their goalie is taking his time. That must wind up the oppo which can lead to mistakes. Fair play to the lad and he's grabbing his chance to prove the doubters wrong.
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The garden of England 07 Mar 22 10.04am

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Good points. It's great to see players playing with enthusiam and positivity. Mateta and CG are right up there, and it seems to rubbed off on Wilf, who hasn't had a moan for a couple of games!

Mateta seems to play the ref a bit. Pointing to his wrist when their goalie is taking his time. That must wind up the oppo which can lead to mistakes. Fair play to the lad and he's grabbing his chance to prove the doubters wrong.

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CrazyBadger Ware 07 Mar 22 10.14am
I've watched Mateta's goal from saturday loads of times and still can't fathom how the ball ended up over popping up over the Goalie AND stay on the Pitch. "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"
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Ware 07 Mar 22 10.14am

I've watched Mateta's goal from saturday loads of times and still can't fathom how the ball ended up over popping up over the Goalie AND stay on the Pitch.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 05 Apr 22 8.47pm
Told you Mateta was by far best, and you wait for Eze next season he will be sensational in the Gallagher role, mark my words “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 05 Apr 22 8.47pm

Told you Mateta was by far best, and you wait for Eze next season he will be sensational in the Gallagher role, mark my words

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 05 Apr 22 9.08pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Told you Mateta was by far best, and you wait for Eze next season he will be sensational in the Gallagher role, mark my words He may well be sensational next season but it won't be in the Gallagher role. He hasn't got either the energy or the pressing skills.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 05 Apr 22 9.08pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Told you Mateta was by far best, and you wait for Eze next season he will be sensational in the Gallagher role, mark my words

He may well be sensational next season but it won't be in the Gallagher role. He hasn't got either the energy or the pressing skills.

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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 05 Apr 22 9.24pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Told you Mateta was by far best, and you wait for Eze next season he will be sensational in the Gallagher role, mark my words You’re definitely Eze’s mum
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Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 05 Apr 22 9.24pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Told you Mateta was by far best, and you wait for Eze next season he will be sensational in the Gallagher role, mark my words

You’re definitely Eze’s mum

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Robk 05 Apr 22 9.37pm
If I was Gallagher I would engineer a stay @ Palace.. why go back to Chelsea... lots of uncertainty and he’s certainly loved here playing his best football....
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05 Apr 22 9.37pm

If I was Gallagher I would engineer a stay @ Palace.. why go back to Chelsea... lots of uncertainty and he’s certainly loved here playing his best football....

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beak croydon 05 Apr 22 9.40pm
Originally posted by Painter Its amusing to see how many ways you can think of to have dig at Benteke. Even putting Ayew above him, who has scored once in the last 2 seasons. Ayew is a grafter without a doubt.
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croydon 05 Apr 22 9.40pm

Originally posted by Painter

Its amusing to see how many ways you can think of to have dig at Benteke. Even putting Ayew above him, who has scored once in the last 2 seasons.

Ayew is a grafter without a doubt.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 06 Apr 22 4.19am
Originally posted by doombear He may well be sensational next season but it won't be in the Gallagher role. He hasn't got either the energy or the pressing skills. He will with a full pre season and it is the role made for him he has much more creativity and awareness fhan Gallagher. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 06 Apr 22 4.19am

Originally posted by doombear

He may well be sensational next season but it won't be in the Gallagher role. He hasn't got either the energy or the pressing skills.

He will with a full pre season and it is the role made for him he has much more creativity and awareness fhan Gallagher.

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