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Stirlingsays 14 Jan 22 12.52pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Plus there's the inevitable England collapse. Only positive now will be to end Root's Captaincy and maybe get some actual young players in. Ditto. Couldn't be much worse.
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Midlands Eagle 14 Jan 22 2.22pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Only positive now will be to end Root's Captaincy and maybe get some actual young players in. Who would you have as captain bearing in mind that Stokes doesn't want the job? Zak Crawley is 23 and Ollie Pope and Haseeb Hameed are both 24 so how much younger do you want the players to be?
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Stirlingsays 14 Jan 22 3.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Who would you have as captain bearing in mind that Stokes doesn't want the job? Zak Crawley is 23 and Ollie Pope and Haseeb Hameed are both 24 so how much younger do you want the players to be? Sorry for butting in but those are always quite exciting questions. I think Crawley and Pope are pretty much nailed on England players when it comes to ability within our county system.....Hameed has definitely regressed since he first burst onto the scene and will need to rebuild significantly and for the second time. When it comes to the 'then who' question I think back to the Hussain era. Back then we were also a very average to below average side in terms of worldwide talent but Hussain took that team and shook it. He made it far less of a 'buddy side' and more hard nosed and a difficult to beat team. I think England could do worse than to look around the county scene to see if that type is around now....Maybe Harry Brooks?.... I don't know....But Root seems to have proven himself as someone's mate rather than their captain. Root is obviously the stand out batsman of this generation however that seems to have been as an exception to the system the ECB have created rather than because of it. People talk and moan about the public sector and talk about golden pensions and the like....but the money that some have been paid in English management for the results that been produced just feels so wrong to me...They are the private sector but come across as much worse due to the money levels involved....it's out of synch with how merit/reward should work. But what motive is there to change when deals ensure that the money is still high....just carry on giving a sad face to the media while the money still flows. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jan 2022 3.45pm)
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Midlands Eagle 14 Jan 22 3.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Not at all as this is a forum for ideas after all. I agree that a lot of the blame lies at the feet of the ECB but I doubt whether they will blame themselves
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Jan 22 6.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Who would you have as captain bearing in mind that Stokes doesn't want the job? Zak Crawley is 23 and Ollie Pope and Haseeb Hameed are both 24 so how much younger do you want the players to be? It's younger pace bowlers I would like to see. I know Anderson is good and a hero but it's getting silly. I would like Robinson all day long, and Archer when he comes back, along with Stokes. For an unusual choice, I've been impressed with Mahmoud, who can now bowl at 90, has swing, seam and accuracy. Frankly, can't believe the selectors haven't noticed. Maybe he doesn't even want to play tests? Actually, the whole team look like they don't like tests. That's the first problem. A captain should sort that.
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Stirlingsays 16 Jan 22 11.07am | |
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English cricket can aptly be described as being in ashes at this point. I tell you what, it must be nice to be paid so highly for being so poor at a job.
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CPFC1965 Warrington 16 Jan 22 11.11am | |
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An absolutely pathetic display by our so called elite players.
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Midlands Eagle 16 Jan 22 11.17am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I tell you what, it must be nice to be paid so highly for being so poor at a job. Most of them will be receiving between half a million and a full million per year
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YT Oxford 16 Jan 22 11.19am | |
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What an absolute load of s***e.
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Stirlingsays 16 Jan 22 11.32am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Most of them will be receiving between half a million and a full million per year I feel for those paying to watch that.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jan 22 1.13pm | |
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They gave up in at least two of the matches. Management and team have to all go, in my opinion. I used to like test cricket but finding it increasingly pointless. Basically, only India and Australia seem any good.
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viveasheagle perth 17 Jan 22 7.56am | |
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To come from England and play in Australia you need time to acclimatise as well as game time to get used to the harder pitches. England to start with were well under prepared. The bowlers have skills but Wood aside most are only bowling at less than 140kph and that is when they are fresh. Even 4th change bowling all rounder for the Aussies bowls at over 140kph. Second part is England's bowlers are all right arm over the week making it easier for Aussie batsman. There are flaws in both batting lines up but more so in England's. Edited by viveasheagle (17 Jan 2022 7.57am)
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