My only point against this is, when you are in a world where protests and demonstrations are constantly hijacked by activists to the extent that no protest is entirely peaceful any longer, how do you deal with it?

The activists are the worst.

Shouting, "No Rest, No Peace, f*** the Police" at a vigil was disgusting behaviour. I think murder at the hands of a policeman is a good enough reason to break Covid regulations in the town where it happens and the police should face some backlash, but those people are horrible.

Imagine how the family feel. It must be hard enough having the police break the news to you that your daughter has been murdered by a policeman, and harder still to have to rely on them to enforce the law.... but wall to wall press coverage and artists using cheap, half baked slogans to promote a spiteful political agenda has got to make it 10 times worse.

All they want is to promote an idea of repression to promote a far-left anti-establishment ideology. The far-right do exactly the same. All scumbags.

Last year, they were using George Floyd. A guy who had held a pregnant women at gunpoint. Anyone who flagged this up was shouted down as a racist.

Trump, enforced federal executions against 4 people who killed women and children in January. They called him a racist.

Anyone who mentioned that they shouldn't have got involved in crime was told they were a facist that didn't have any respect for human life.

14 stabbing and two murders in South London in one weekend at the start of February. 8 people murdered in the last week. Most victims seem to be black youngsters, often children under the age of 18.

Now their deaths aren't as important because "they were probably involved in gangs".

Saying, "All Lives Matter", was offensive. Now saying its "not all men" is also offensive.

They are shutting down any conversation about what can effectively be done to reduce all crime, because it doesn't fit in with their agenda. All they care about is the ideology.

*there is still an issue with the way a lot of men behave. That needs to be addressed through proper social shaming and punishment.

The so called 'far right' aren't creating 'an idea of repression'.

They are directly repressed and are treated very differently to other anti establishment parties...BLM and extinction rebellion off the top of my head.

For example, PA (Patriotic Alternative) have been refused permission to create a political party three times now. All the reasons given are nonsense. Whereas the organisation fronting for BLM were allowed straight away so that they could receive funding.

I have issues with PA but to suggest that they aren't being repressed by the state isn't reality.....they are also being persecuted by corporations like banks who seek and have shut down their bank accounts and activists who try to get knowledge of members to get them fired.
Robinson is another case in point, though being politically different from PA he is also persecuted because he's anti establishment.

Does this happen to the Communist party for example? An organisation that has had a well funded headquarters in London for many decades and top level support in the Labour party.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

You do make the weirdest statements. “More stasi than the DDR ever was”. Would you like to back that up with some facts?

A bit OTT certainly, but in a week where a law may be passed that could outlaw any protest that is noisy or causes "serious annoyance" (subjective beyond belief) with protesters facing up to 10 years in prison, I would say that we are not moving in a healthy direction. Rights are rarely handed back. There shouldn't really be any quibbling over the above being a bad idea. If all it takes to distract people from that fact is a group of women going against the rules, that's unfortunate.

Vigil eh?

Not according to Sarah's friend

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