Good to know you are keen to condemn mindless violence by utter morons.

Had a couple of mates out in Bristol yesterday. Both mega lefties, but alright all the same.

They've suddenly realised why the rest of my friends have apparently moved the the right.

The went home before the violence started and are absolutely outraged at them scenes.

It seems they have accepted that draconian sanctions are now a reality, just as they are in football.

Wait patiently and the loonatics will destroy themselves.

I'm inclined to agree. No doubt many are familiar with my political stance on here, but I think the protests (whislt framed incorrectly, and hijacked by the usual scum) were very much on the money.

We have accepted draconian, authoritarian and totalitarian rule without so much as raising an eyebrow here. There is zero political opposition to it - Labour basically want "MORE GULAG" and would only vote against when it's (1) politically opportune (2) not gulag-y enough for them. There is (the *must* be, surely?) a sizeable population that have zero political representation of their views. What outlet do they have?

Be under no illusion: we're not getting our freedoms back without a struggle.

I am utterly sickened by what happened in Bristol. But I'm more sickened by the new powers and controls that have been imposed on us by a Government that has zero regard for the health of society.

Was I expecting the Tories to be a libertarian beacon of the free world during this crisis? No.

Was I expecting it to follow the Chinese playbook it virtuously signals that it abhors so much? No - even I didn't think they could stoop that low. Yet, here we are.

Bloody hell. I think I need a shower - I'm starting to sound left-wing!

When I look at Labour I don't see a party with huge social policy differences on its wings but instead I see a party split between those who wish to gain power by being honest and those who want to gain power by lying.

If you look at modern Labour's only successful period it was Blair/Mandelsen and Campbell. Their social policies, were far left....for example, they introduced 'hate speech' laws, they opened the country up to massive mass immigration. While they presented themselves as moderates they enacted far left policies.

However, what they did differently to the honest in Labour was cosy up to big business. They courted the media. Even their big claim to be modern moderates, which was the removing of clause four....was in reality a wink wink to big business that 'you can make money with us'.
Hence you had the absurd reality of Murdoch's Sun supporting Blair against the Tories.

So the Blair wing betrayed the socialist tradition fiscally to implement the socialist tradition socially.

Of course this was never comfortable for the grass roots and the longer it went on the more discontent they became....like having your sugar doughnut flavoured with lime.

So when the heart of the Labour movement regained control again under Corbyn it came at a return to socialism in its honest form....which doesn't cosy up to capitalism.

So in return most of the corporations and big business turned on Corybn and ensured him no real support even though many of the people in these companies and institutions were leftist.

Now you have Keir Starmer and you can see what he wants to do....He wants to return to the perception that he's similar to a Blair's moderate....and play that trick of big business reassurance and hence media acceptability while actually having pretty much all the same policies.

His problem is that Labour's grass roots don't want to return to 'the face of Blair'....not enough of them and not yet anyway.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Mar 2021 10.23am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

They will be calling you Alex Jones next.

But certainly the stars aligned didn't they and I noted it too.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Being observers on the outside we can never be sure but I think it's perfectly valid to be suspicious on the basic, 'who benefits' side of the equation.

That doesn't mean we will be correct as events do happen independently of course but basic infiltration of all groups by different interests regardless of politics has been a reality for centuries.

Who knows what the underlying truths are but those stars sure aligned regardless.

But if basically the outcoming result ends in the further removal of basic freedoms but with larger public support then some level of underhand tactics or not it's another sad day.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)