A shame to lose someone so fast

Clearly said in irony but he must have known it was committing suicide. Probably bored with constant arguments and having all the negatives around defending a view point with very little light hearted banter and fun.

As a matter of interest, I wonder which current poster used to be Hedgehog.

I asked you to re-read my comments because I have already answered this point, at some length so you have no excuses for missing it.

To describe any criminal group by their racial origin is, almost by definition, racist. It suggests that all pakistanis are group rapists. Now I guess you will be in denial of that because you won't see it in the same way but for many it really does suggest that and, most importantly, it will to the whole pakistani community who will feel ostracised and marginalised when the objective must be the absolute opposite.

Exactly the same considerations apply to the knife crime and terrorism. Crimes are committed by people and not by the colour of their skins. Condemn the sin and not the ethnicity of the sinner.

We need to separate evil from things that aren't evil. Being pakistani and/or Muslim, Black or White, or anything else, is not evil and to suggest otherwise is racist.

Now that really is telling and where you clearly have your blind spot. So you are talking about trusting the politicians, the social services, the police and local authorities? (the media perhaps?) How did that go in Rotherham and elsewhere and what lessons have fundamentally been learned? Where is the public inquiry like the £25m one we had to have for Abu Ghraib for enemy combatants? (which found pretty much nothing)

The point is they are all our institutions right up to and including the house of lords and the monarchy are compromised by the same left wing ideology as you. They will never address any of these problems directly unless they change course and allow true free speech. You wonder why this is such a hot topic on forums like this but nobody dare express anything that might be even remotely *interpreted* asracist/sexist/Islamophobic etc in the real world. It's now taboo, a non-discussion and it's mass censorship. People are even getting knocks on the door by the Police for saying the wrong thing (I think they now call it non-criminal hate speech).

In a world where people have their own "truth", nothing is objective and everything is relative and malleable (even gender) then everything can be explained by ideology.

You are basically arguing that peoples right to be offended trumps all others and people do not have the agency to think for themselves (it's dangerous so let the state do it for us). It's madness and it also plays into the hands of extremists on both sides.

Oh dear.

The origin, culture and or religion of the criminal might well be at the heart of the problem. If you can't understand that simple concept and would rather bury your head in rainbow colored sand then I really can't be bothered to explain it further.

You are part of the problem.

No Sir. It is you who are part of the problem. It may well be the case that "the origin, culture and or religion of the criminal might well be at the heart of the problem".

That though is absolutely no reason to tar all the nationals of a particular country with the same brush. It's a good reason to quietly examine it and work within the communities to ensure it is eradicated.

We don't even know if these "pakistani rape gangs" are actually all pakistani. Some come from other cultures. Some will have been born here and hold British citizenship. Some will have naturalised. Why even mention it, unless you intend to convey some kind of negative connotation. Which then attaches to all members of that community. You don't specify their ages, height or weight. Just that they are pakistani. You don't even say they are assumed to be pakistani.

Not recognising this as a mistaken way of dealing with an important issue is very regrettable because it just makes things worse and not better.

What do you think is actually achieved by describing the gang rapes as being by "pakistanis"? Does it help the Police, or does it wind up negative sentiment towards the pakistani community? What is your ultimate solution to this problem and how does such descriptions help achieve that?

That's another distortion of what I wrote.

Of course you can present facts without being accused of being racist or extremist. I do, and I am not.

What you cannot do is select what facts you present, ignore others and context, and then not be accused of being either racist or extremist if your selection demonstrates that you are. See the difference?

What many people here, and those like Robinson, don't do is attempt to "examine the root causes of terrible crimes". They go only as deep as their prejudices permit them to go and never get to the roots, which are often buried very deep, out of sight and need specialist skills to unravel.

I am totally consistent with my judgement of people having learned many years ago that it was unwise to make exceptions just because you might have sympathy because of some kind of perceived disadvantage. People can be good, bad or a bit of both from whatever their background. I try to remember that.