Their opinions are as valid as those who believe the earth is flat - you can debate the extent and severity of climate change, but it’s pretty impossible to disagree with it’s existence at this point - to do so is just neglecting facts.

Quite why you think the incorrect financial forecasting of your school textbook 40 years ago is relevant to that, I don’t know.

That is the way these things work. The middle class dislike/like something and the negative impacts are always directed downwards. Be it climate change or unbridled immigration, the working class pay the price for middle class onanistic political causes.

And these climate change protests are the definition of 'white guilt' writ large. Nothing more than mass virtue signalling bordering on hysteria.

My own political antenna are twitching away though about them for a variety of reasons because something stinks about not only how they have been handled by the police but also the political reaction.

Just the fawning over this Swedish teenage girl by our political mainstream really does not sit right with me and whilst I appreciate that autistic people are fully entitled to opinions, I am uneasy about the way a girl is being put up on a pedestal here by politicans who would happily sell their own kids if it meant a step up the political ladder.

I am sure the kid is well meaning but lets get some perspective here. She is a child, clearly being exploited by adults. Ain't right.

I distrust the entire 'Green' movement for a whole host of reasons, not least that when you push almost all of them they end up taking a position that the Earth could do with a whole lot less people living on it, and they don't seem too worried about how that situation comes about but these recent events reek of a much bigger manipulation going on.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

That's down to technological progress in many areas notably communication, distribution, energy and most importantly farming plus the US economy, as it funds by far the highest in UN programs.

Many modern day environmentalists have....in significant numbers opposed many of the key methods used...especially in farming to feed the poorest.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

To me the question of whether climate change is man made or historically cyclical is besides the point.

We are due another glacial period and warming the atmosphere is probably going to delay its onset.

Just for reference I think the evidence that man, since the industrial revolution, has had a significant impact on the climate isn't in dispute.

However, what is also not in dispute has been the widely inaccurate predictions and scare stories that have been pushed both by'experts' and the media convinced by them......Apparently we are expected to ignore these like an easily distracted child.

Also we have the almost comical emotional reactions to climate change. The delusions these people have about the practically possible never cease to amaze me.

Indeed, the risk of nuclear attack is far more a realistic threat to the climate and the species. There are already several interesting developments in climate change technology.....that's the only practical and realistic way to approach it.

The future on earth is in building cities underground whether climate change is real or not.

I just pray I'm wrong about the nuclear future, but statistically I just don't see how I can be. If I'm not wrong the only hope is that it's a limited conflict.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Apr 2019 6.04pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yep, the world will continue spinning around the sun regardless for billions of years yet unless a random massive object disrupts our orbit significantly.

Mankind however is very much in danger from several directions.

What troubles me most is the Fermi paradox. considering the size and age of the universe we should be seeing abundant evidence for sophisticated species elsewhere in the universe....or at least something.

But up to now we have very very little of anything of note. Perhaps we are the first to get to this stage....highly unlikely.

Or more uncomfortable is the thought that all civilizations reach a technological point beyond which their own developments wipe them out.

Lets hope that we are missing something....we probably are...different dimensions perhaps....or that our technology just can't detect the signals because of how distance affects them or whatever.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)