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Hrolf The Ganger 18 May 18 8.34pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Every time someone is killed or injured the hatred is perpetuated. So try to avoid killing Seems self evident to me. Staggeringly naive. Neither side knows compromise. I don't like to see people being shot unnecessarily by troops and neither do most people. Israel has played into the hands of Hamas by giving them an opportunity to play the victim card and sadly, those scumbags are happy to let Palestinians die in a fight they cannot win. All nuance and facts are lost on these occasions while people trot out the same old rhetoric. Like it or not, Palestinians are going to be pushed out by the expansion of Israel and they had better come to terms with it and live a peaceful coexistence or die in a futile attempt to halt it. What would you do? Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 May 2018 8.36pm)
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Originally posted by Mapletree

Every time someone is killed or injured the hatred is perpetuated.

So try to avoid killing

Seems self evident to me.

Staggeringly naive. Neither side knows compromise.

I don't like to see people being shot unnecessarily by troops and neither do most people. Israel has played into the hands of Hamas by giving them an opportunity to play the victim card and sadly, those scumbags are happy to let Palestinians die in a fight they cannot win.
All nuance and facts are lost on these occasions while people trot out the same old rhetoric.
Like it or not, Palestinians are going to be pushed out by the expansion of Israel and they had better come to terms with it and live a peaceful coexistence or die in a futile attempt to halt it.

What would you do?

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cryrst The garden of England 18 May 18 9.02pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Staggeringly naive. Neither side knows compromise. I don't like to see people being shot unnecessarily by troops and neither do most people. Israel has played into the hands of Hamas by giving them an opportunity to play the victim card and sadly, those scumbags are happy to let Palestinians die in a fight they cannot win. All nuance and facts are lost on these occasions while people trot out the same old rhetoric. Like it or not, Palestinians are going to be pushed out by the expansion of Israel and they had better come to terms with it and live a peaceful coexistence or die in a futile attempt to halt it. What would you do? Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 May 2018 8.36pm) Unfortunately you Only get dead heroes. Look on the centaph and you will see them all.
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The garden of England 18 May 18 9.02pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Staggeringly naive. Neither side knows compromise.

What would you do?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 May 2018 8.36pm)

Unfortunately you Only get dead heroes.
Look on the centaph and you will see them all.

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Stirlingsays 18 May 18 9.29pm
Just as the Arab countries have pushed out other religions and the Jews Israel is going to push out the Palestinians. There is no justice in any of it because there is no justice to 'might is right'. You just get 'might is right' and self interest. Just as people don't comment on how all these Arab countries were unjust.....as in they were formally Christian with Jews but are now near totally Islamic. No doubt this came with much miserly....but it was before the TV age. The Arab nations went to war three times and lost three times. We could get an Iranian war or another conflict....but Israel have massive nuclear stocks. So really they have a lot of angles covered. Perhaps Iran think that also going nuclear means that they can cancel that risk out and win via military invasion. Gaza will be tricky for Israel but the West Bank is well on the way. This is obviously what they are doing. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 May 18 9.29pm

Just as the Arab countries have pushed out other religions and the Jews Israel is going to push out the Palestinians.

There is no justice in any of it because there is no justice to 'might is right'. You just get 'might is right' and self interest.

Just as people don't comment on how all these Arab countries were unjust.....as in they were formally Christian with Jews but are now near totally Islamic. No doubt this came with much miserly....but it was before the TV age.

The Arab nations went to war three times and lost three times. We could get an Iranian war or another conflict....but Israel have massive nuclear stocks. So really they have a lot of angles covered. Perhaps Iran think that also going nuclear means that they can cancel that risk out and win via military invasion.

Gaza will be tricky for Israel but the West Bank is well on the way.

This is obviously what they are doing.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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corkery Cork City 18 May 18 11.57pm
The solution would be for the world to sanction Israel until they behave. They are the scum of the democratic nations. We'll never die
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Cork City 18 May 18 11.57pm

The solution would be for the world to sanction Israel until they behave. They are the scum of the democratic nations.

We'll never die

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Stirlingsays 19 May 18 12.12am
Originally posted by corkery The solution would be for the world to sanction Israel until they behave. They are the scum of the democratic nations. Behave? America certainly won't be sanctioning Israel. Essentially it comes down to IQ. The average IQ of Jews is significantly higher than that of Arabs and that along with their good integration abilities has meant that they have gained many positions of influence within American society....the most powerful nation on earth. The Jews don't feck about and they are far from stupid. Unfortunately, in general, the same can't be said....so much...for their opponents. The real world has nothing to do with fairness at all. Countries or indeed continents that stand still get left behind. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 May 18 12.12am

Originally posted by corkery

The solution would be for the world to sanction Israel until they behave. They are the scum of the democratic nations.

Behave?

America certainly won't be sanctioning Israel. Essentially it comes down to IQ.

The average IQ of Jews is significantly higher than that of Arabs and that along with their good integration abilities has meant that they have gained many positions of influence within American society....the most powerful nation on earth. The Jews don't feck about and they are far from stupid. Unfortunately, in general, the same can't be said....so much...for their opponents.

The real world has nothing to do with fairness at all. Countries or indeed continents that stand still get left behind.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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cryrst The garden of England 19 May 18 3.16am
Originally posted by corkery The solution would be for the world to sanction Israel until they behave. They are the scum of the democratic nations. I think you should hold that thought. If that is because of how they treat Gaza then you need to read and understand. A majority of these people think you are scum and would see you gone to further their enveloping of the world into islam.
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The garden of England 19 May 18 3.16am

Originally posted by corkery

The solution would be for the world to sanction Israel until they behave. They are the scum of the democratic nations.

I think you should hold that thought.
If that is because of how they treat Gaza then you need to read and understand.
A majority of these people think you are scum and would see you gone to further their enveloping of the world into islam.

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Stirlingsays 19 May 18 5.59am
There are always two sides to every story. [Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 May 18 5.59am

There are always two sides to every story.

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Hrolf The Ganger 19 May 18 12.14pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays There are always two sides to every story. [Link] As with most things, this is not a black and white situation. What is true is that the West decided to create a homeland for Jews slap bang in the midst of their 'enemies' and this is the result. It is a tragedy but we are now in a situation that cannot be undone. Politics and religion will have their way.
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19 May 18 12.14pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There are always two sides to every story.

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As with most things, this is not a black and white situation.
What is true is that the West decided to create a homeland for Jews slap bang in the midst of their 'enemies' and this is the result.
It is a tragedy but we are now in a situation that cannot be undone. Politics and religion will have their way.

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Stirlingsays 19 May 18 1.56pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger As with most things, this is not a black and white situation. What is true is that the West decided to create a homeland for Jews slap bang in the midst of their 'enemies' and this is the result. It is a tragedy but we are now in a situation that cannot be undone. Politics and religion will have their way. Well, we are importing ourselves out of our own continent anyway. So in a hundred or so years time Israel and the US will have a lot more on its plate to worry about. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 May 18 1.56pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Well, we are importing ourselves out of our own continent anyway. So in a hundred or so years time Israel and the US will have a lot more on its plate to worry about.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 19 May 18 5.17pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Well, we are importing ourselves out of our own continent anyway. So in a hundred or so years time Israel and the US will have a lot more on its plate to worry about. Us European types will all have to move to Australia and wear lots of Sun screen. Maybe our secret world government knows there's an ice age coming.
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19 May 18 5.17pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well, we are importing ourselves out of our own continent anyway. So in a hundred or so years time Israel and the US will have a lot more on its plate to worry about.

Us European types will all have to move to Australia and wear lots of Sun screen.
Maybe our secret world government knows there's an ice age coming.

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aquickgame2 Beni = summer,Caribbean = winter 21 May 18 8.44am
I see that Egypt aren't exactly being nice Arab neighbors to the Palestinians,not just Israel not wanting them.
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Beni = summer,Caribbean = winter 21 May 18 8.44am

I see that Egypt aren't exactly being nice Arab neighbors to the Palestinians,not just Israel not wanting them.

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Stirlingsays 21 May 18 8.51pm
Originally posted by aquickgame2 I see that Egypt aren't exactly being nice Arab neighbors to the Palestinians,not just Israel not wanting them. The two state solution is dead. Killed off by an assassin and the fear of assassins. Here's my thoughts on the direction of travel.....though it might take a couple of decades....longer if the right in Israel are voted out. Israel is going to continue taking all of the West Bank and building settlements. Then when that's complete there will be a long period of making life even tougher and overtly encouraging the Gazan Palestinians to leave....Then after Israel has dotted the i's and T's it will invade Gaza on some pretext, either valid or invalid and kill or arrest everyone. That's going to be very bloody on both sides, especially Palestinians. Then I'd imagine the Palestinians will be kept in many large concentration camps until they are deported to an Arab country willing to have them. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end game. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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21 May 18 8.51pm

Originally posted by aquickgame2

I see that Egypt aren't exactly being nice Arab neighbors to the Palestinians,not just Israel not wanting them.

The two state solution is dead.

Killed off by an assassin and the fear of assassins.

Here's my thoughts on the direction of travel.....though it might take a couple of decades....longer if the right in Israel are voted out.

Israel is going to continue taking all of the West Bank and building settlements. Then when that's complete there will be a long period of making life even tougher and overtly encouraging the Gazan Palestinians to leave....Then after Israel has dotted the i's and T's it will invade Gaza on some pretext, either valid or invalid and kill or arrest everyone.

That's going to be very bloody on both sides, especially Palestinians.

Then I'd imagine the Palestinians will be kept in many large concentration camps until they are deported to an Arab country willing to have them.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end game.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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