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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 23 Nov 17 1.39pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston

I watched the episode of Anthony Bourdain’s excellent “Parts Unknown” that was shot in Puerto Rico literally a few weeks before the island was annihilated by Hurricane Maria. One of the gobsmacking things discussed by the locals is that they no longer produce any of their own...erm...produce, because indigenous farmers cannot compete with the prices of goods imported from the US mainland.

I heard the same story when I was in Hawaii, which used to grow much of the world’s supply of sugar, but now everything is turned over to tourism – service jobs – because there’s no money in anything else. The joke there is that the lovely piece of fish you’re having for dinner probably arrived on the same flight you did. They don’t even grow pineapples there any more; they all come from Mexico now. You drive right by the derelict Dole canning plant on the way out of Honolulu.

The problem for people is that capitalism moves much faster than we can adapt. Even China – which attracted manufacturing jobs away from much of the western democracies – is expected to see a drop in production volumes as it loses work to cheaper, less developed venues. China’s middle class is exploding, meaning they want nice things and they want the jobs/salaries to make that happen. Those jobs aren't ones making iPhones. Manufacturers see this inevitable shift in China’s cost-benefit analysis, and immediately move on to new, more economically beneficial locales.

Just as there's always a bigger fish; there's always a cheaper place to get your s*** made.

.......Puerto Rico is also technically bankrupt. Mainly due to Democratic leadership & the unions.
The saying Piss up in a brewery springs to mind, yet they still vote these imbeciles into power.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 23 Nov 17 1.44pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Read The Guardian cover to cover for the first time in absolutely ages the other day. Surprisingly rational apart from Polly Toynbee having a rant but all the actual news journalism was impartial.

Watching The Daily Politics today and Polly Toynbee and a fellow from The Sun were the guest journalists standing together outside the Houses of Parliament.

Ms Toynbee started arguing with the Sun guy which is something I've never seen on that show before as they normally just politely say their piece in turn

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Nov 17 1.56pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Read The Guardian cover to cover for the first time in absolutely ages the other day. Surprisingly rational apart from Polly Toynbee having a rant but all the actual news journalism was impartial.

Edited by Kermit8 (23 Nov 2017 1.32pm)

Remarkable since all the stuff I see linked on here is biased left wing bulls***.

It must be the posters who trawl for the dregs.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 23 Nov 17 2.13pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The f***ing Independent. Dear me. And people moan about the Daily Mail.

Actually it's probably the mail and it's racist rhetoric that helped make the man what he became.

Of course if it was a Muslim running round with a big knife asking people if they were Christian, we wouldn't hear the last of it.

 

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elgrande Flag bedford 23 Nov 17 2.20pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Actually it's probably the mail and it's racist rhetoric that helped make the man what he became.

Of course if it was a Muslim running round with a big knife asking people if they were Christian, we wouldn't hear the last of it.

The guy is an idiot and needs locking up. Big time.
But to say its the daily mails fault...well words fail me.

If anything its watching kids being blown up for some medieval f***ing religion..or thier warped interpretation of it.
To blame a newspaper is lazy and ignorant.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 23 Nov 17 2.28pm

Originally posted by elgrande

The guy is an idiot and needs locking up. Big time.
But to say its the daily mails fault...well words fail me.

If anything its watching kids being blown up for some medieval f***ing religion..or thier warped interpretation of it.
To blame a newspaper is lazy and ignorant.

It's par for the course I'm afraid. The power attributed to the Daily Mail!

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 23 Nov 17 2.31pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

If words didn't affect people's reasoning and choices then advertising nor written propaganda wouldn't exist.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 23 Nov 17 2.40pm

Originally posted by elgrande

The guy is an idiot and needs locking up. Big time.
But to say its the daily mails fault...well words fail me.

If anything its watching kids being blown up for some medieval f***ing religion..or thier warped interpretation of it.
To blame a newspaper is lazy and ignorant.


So the Mail's constant drip drip of anti Muslim 'stories' don't shape opinion.

How many believed Christmas had pretty much been banned in Birmingham with the Mail's bogus Winterval story. Once mates tell mates and bogus stories spreads things pretty much almost become accepted common knowledge.

Same with the mmr causes autism nonsense that the Mail quite happily repeated ad nauseum. So much so, many many people believed it was true.

That's just 2 examples where the Mail has shaped people's thoughts and opinions with unsubstantiated bulls***.

Stands to reason that some will have their thoughts and opinions about Muslims and Islam shaped by unsubstantiated racist bulls***.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 23 Nov 17 2.41pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

If words didn't affect people's reasoning and choices then advertising nor written propaganda wouldn't exist.

Perhaps there was an article in the Guardian that should have read 'be nice to Muslims', but there was the usual Guardian misprint of 'knife the muslims'?

Edited by hedgehog50 (23 Nov 2017 2.43pm)

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 23 Nov 17 2.42pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Perhaps he went to a Derren Brown show but misunderstood the subliminal message to be nice to Muslims, for knife the muslims?

No.

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 23 Nov 17 2.45pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande

The guy is an idiot and needs locking up. Big time.
But to say its the daily mails fault...well words fail me.

If anything its watching kids being blown up for some medieval f***ing religion..or thier warped interpretation of it.
To blame a newspaper is lazy and ignorant.

A newspaper or blog can certainly instill a level of paranoia or jingoism or anger in those that are susceptible should they so wish to go down that route.

A bit like religion.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 23 Nov 17 2.46pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

So the Mail's constant drip drip of anti Muslim 'stories' don't shape opinion.

How many believed Christmas had pretty much been banned in Birmingham with the Mail's bogus Winterval story. Once mates tell mates and bogus stories spreads things pretty much almost become accepted common knowledge.

Same with the mmr causes autism nonsense that the Mail quite happily repeated ad nauseum. So much so, many many people believed it was true.

That's just 2 examples where the Mail has shaped people's thoughts and opinions with unsubstantiated bulls***.

Stands to reason that some will have their thoughts and opinions about Muslims and Islam shaped by unsubstantiated racist bulls***.

Did the Winterval story say that Christians had been banned from Birmingham then? Must have missed that, and I pore over every word in that august organ. Mind you I expect many Christians try to avoid Birmingham these days, I do.

 


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