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 Ray in Houston  Houston 05 Jan 18 5.13pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Last mass shooting in the UK was 20 years ago I believe and Australia the same. America probably 20 days ago if not hours. And there will be another along in a minute. They are truly insane when it comes to firearms and backward.
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Penge Eagle  Beckenham 05 Jan 18 5.35pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
No, you just 'straw-manned' as it's a separate argument. The original point was about allowing licenced carry holders on school grounds as it would more likely SAVE lives, and lots of evidence (and common sense) indicates this.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Jan 18 5.44pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
No, you just 'straw-manned' as it's a separate argument. The original point was about allowing licenced carry holders on school grounds as it would more likely SAVE lives, and lots of evidence (and common sense) indicates this. It really is a shocking state of affairs that arming some teachers is seen as a viable solution.
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Kermit8  Hevon 05 Jan 18 5.49pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
No, you just 'straw-manned' as it's a separate argument. The original point was about allowing licenced carry holders on school grounds as it would more likely SAVE lives, and lots of evidence (and common sense) indicates this. You make the idea of carrying guns on Primary School premises seem rational and normal. How fvcked up a country must be for that way of thinking to evolve and be taken seriously. I mean it's not like armed uniformed officials in the U.S are known to kill the wrong and innocent people, is it? "Cop kills kid who was holding a crayon thinking it was a gun" - "Again" And how many of these armed guards around 7 years olds will have mental health issues, i wonder?
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| chelys London 05 Jan 18 6.07pm |
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All secondary schools in London are to be offered knife detectors to check pupils for weapons as part of a major crackdown on growing knife crime in the capital. Secondary schools across the city are being invited to apply for a metal detecting “wand” to screen students. In addition every school will get its own “safer schools” police officer as part of a package of measures announced by London’s mayor.
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| Stirlingsays 05 Jan 18 6.11pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
It really is a shocking state of affairs that arming some teachers is seen as a viable solution. For the US It might be better than the alternative......It's all about calculating risk. Visiting primary schools for my boy to start in September....saw an excellent school today, but the main playground is overlooked by two streets of houses. There's risk in everything.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Jan 18 6.21pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
For the US It might be better than the alternative......It's all about calculating risk. Visiting primary schools for my boy to start in September....saw an excellent school today, but the main playground is overlooked by two streets of houses. There's risk in everything. School I worked at for years in Woolwich overlooked where Lee Rigby was killed. (I'd left by then, but an old colleague had been bringing her class back from swimming lessons)
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| Stirlingsays 05 Jan 18 6.40pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
School I worked at for years in Woolwich overlooked where Lee Rigby was killed. (I'd left by then, but an old colleague had been bringing her class back from swimming lessons) I suppose in life there's a certain amount of crossing your fingers. A relative who married into the Stirling (Belfast) line told me that he was playing in an army band at the bandstand in Regent's Park the day before the Green Jacket's band was blown up. No one remains in jail from that IRA scum but our boys aren't coming back. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2018 6.49pm)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Jan 18 6.57pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I suppose in life there's a certain amount of crossing your fingers. A relative who married into the Stirling (Belfast) line told me that he was playing in an army band at the bandstand in Regent's Park the day before the Green Jacket's band was blown up. No one remains in jail from that IRA scum but our boys aren't coming back. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2018 6.49pm) Yep, released as political prisoners as part of the peace bought about by the good Friday agreement that is in peril from Brexit.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 05 Jan 18 9.26pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You make the idea of carrying guns on Primary School premises seem rational and normal. How fvcked up a country must be for that way of thinking to evolve and be taken seriously. I mean it's not like armed uniformed officials in the U.S are known to kill the wrong and innocent people, is it? "Cop kills kid who was holding a crayon thinking it was a gun" - "Again" And how many of these armed guards around 7 years olds will have mental health issues, i wonder? Spare me the hyperbole and anti-US sentiment and go back to the specific point about the new California law which states school employees with concealed carry gun permits are no longer allowed on school property. It's stupid and virtue signalling. If there were metal detectors screening guns on entering campus, then nobody with a gun can enter (without force). That would be fine. However, the people with permits now won't carry on campus to adhere with the law. But a mass shooter can enter campus knowing that he can fire off rounds and nobody can do anything to stop him until the cops eventually arrive. How many extra dead bodies could that end up being? You'd rather more dead bodies so you can stand on your anti-gun high horse. Rightly or wrongly, guns will always be in the US, get used to it. Edited by Penge Eagle (05 Jan 2018 9.32pm)
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| Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 05 Jan 18 9.37pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Yep, released as political prisoners as part of the peace bought about by the good Friday agreement that is in peril from Brexit. Absolute bollocks again from the Chislehurst Martyr.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Jan 18 9.49pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Absolute bollocks again from the Chislehurst Martyr. So they weren't released as part of the good Friday agreement? Enlighten me then Bronx 'tato.
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