Correct but there's no point in trying to debate that fact with those on here who continually keep their fingers in their ears whilst whistling. They have a fixed agenda, a hatred for foreigners of all types as they see them as a threat to their perceived 'cushy' lives because those coming to live in the UK have a much, much stronger work ethic. These same blinkered people will make up all sorts of excuses and smear to dnegrate these people, even blaming huge generic groups of 'terrorism' even though as you say, nearly all those commiting acts of 'terror' are in fact British.

Don't waste your time with these inward and backward looking muppets, the world's a much, much bigger and better place than what's found in their tiny minds.

Sure, what we want is the most successful system. The lives of children and adults walking about now, depend on it. More are going to die due to well...essentially the expedience of ideology.

I think this is a weak argument. Let's say that we arrange a deportation arrangement with pakistan. Now it's true that this is where these radicals exist anyway....but 'putting assets into enemy hands' is moot when these morons are mostly free to travel there at any point anyway.

Having knowledge of the UK is hardly significant in the world of the Internet and when the people you deport can't come back. Any information they have to give could be given over the Internet anyway.....moot.

I would require the security services to gain the agreement of a judge on the anti state activities of an individual before deportation. This is only suggested as a failsafe requirement against abuse of the system. It isn't perfect....but that's half the problem...the perfect system never exists and that's another excuse for inaction.

Nope, not in my book. I've thought about detention and come to the conclusion it doesn't work. The numbers involved are likely to be too high and that is even before we touch on the human rights lawyers.

I see this happening eventually....we just have to go through a large number of bodies hitting the floor before it does unfortunately. But at least I can say I wasn't in the crowd that supported inaction and what amounts to tacid acceptance of what's coming.

Nationality and citizens/subjects rights should be in the gift of the state. I would make it easier to strip nationality.

As for where? There are plenty of countries I view as suitable personally. For me, this is a financial transaction and the moving of the radically pious to a country more....radically pious.

Again, those not on watch lists are not of a concern to me......A good half of the Islamic population of Britain hold views that I find disturbing as a secularist.....But I'm not advocating any of this for them other than reform and the closing down of religious schools.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Sep 2017 6.42pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The obvious result of us, sorry, i mean 'those who govern' us, continually pick fights for no reason.

Buy Litecoin.

Happy to agree with you on this.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

But surely it is illogical not to consider a virtual ban on refugees or at least a restriction on which countries we allow them from.
If one refugee kills 100 people, then charity cannot be justified. We are the tax paying voters of the country and we must come first. I'm afraid my consideration for some bloke from Syria does not register in comparison with safety of my family.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Sep 2017 7.51pm)