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 Stirlingsays  14 Sep 17 8.24pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
How's that Stirling. Doesn't paint you in a good light if you think this is reasonable does it
Edited by nickgusset (14 Sep 2017 7.15pm) Well, you responded and put the time in for which you earn a nod from me. I do think their mission statement is reasonable yes....I would stand behind those aims. Are the people reasonable? I don't know...I try not to judge on face value....I know that people like your good self like to call them fascists and 'cunds' and suggest all kinds of nasty stuff.....but then again you have a pop at Newaz. So I hope you won't be too offended if I don't take your opinions on face value either. As for how you responded to the mission statement.....I think you should be more objective. I can't see anything valid in what you criticised....doing backstory opinion pieces isn't a criticism of a mission statement. I could have done that with Corbyn....But I prefer to criticise the policies....the only issue I give Corbyn personal angst over is the IRA one.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Sep 17 8.30pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Well, you responded and put the time in for which you earn a nod from me. I do think their mission statement is reasonable yes....I would stand behind those aims. Are the people reasonable? I don't know...I try not to judge on face value....I know that people like your good self like to call them fascists and 'cunds' and suggest all kinds of nasty stuff.....but then again you have a pop at Newaz. So I hope you won't be too offended if I don't take your opinions on face value either. As for how you responded to the mission statement.....I think you should be more objective. I can't see anything valid in what you criticised....doing backstory opinion pieces isn't a criticism of a mission statement. I could have done that with Corbyn....But I prefer to criticise the policies....the only issue I give Corbyn personal angst over is the IRA one.
Can you explain what you think sharia law is.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Sep 17 8.31pm |
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Back to the thread topic. Seems Le Carre wasn't far wrong reading this thread.
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| Bert the Head Epsom 14 Sep 17 8.55pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
It is ludicrous to stir up some brown shirt scare when the real fascists in this country are bombing children at concerts, running people down in the streets, stabbing police and civilians. They are the real growing danger that needs addressing, not a few neo-nazi nut jobs. Edited by hedgehog50 (09 Sep 2017 7.01pm) Since 2013 42 people have died in England as a result of terrorism. 39 by Islamic extremist attacks and 3 by white racist attack. In just 3 days between September 9-11 2017 37 Iraqi civilians died. This is not extra-ordinary. Day after day people are still dying in Iraq in those numbers. That is not even taking into account Muslims dying in Libya, Syria or Yemen - or civilians drowning trying to flee the mess we've made. Far more Muslim people are still being killed as a result of our reckless wars; long after the conflicts are said to be over. Islamic Terrorism is not "the growing problem" that our love of war and weapons has been and still is. Edited by Bert the Head (14 Sep 2017 8.57pm)
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| youngpalacefan111 14 Sep 17 9.02pm |
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Was that you Nick?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Sep 17 9.03pm |
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No I'm not Bob Stewart.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Sep 17 9.34pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Can you explain what you think sharia law is. I agree with the aims. As for actions from the main group being different to that.....well, if that's true it isn't good.....But I'll go with those aims. Well, sharia just means Islamic law so there is never a need to add the word law to it. There isn't one sharia as different groups within Islam live under different versions. It's their Islamic law interpreted from their religious writings. Why do you ask? Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Sep 2017 9.34pm)
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Sep 17 9.34pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
No I'm not Bob Stewart. No your certainly not. That's for sure !!
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| Stirlingsays 14 Sep 17 9.36pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Back to the thread topic. Seems Le Carre wasn't far wrong reading this thread. Yeah, we know Nick...everyone who disagrees with you is a fascist sympathizer.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Sep 17 9.42pm |
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Originally posted by Bert the Head
Since 2013 42 people have died in England as a result of terrorism. 39 by Islamic extremist attacks and 3 by white racist attack. In just 3 days between September 9-11 2017 37 Iraqi civilians died. This is not extra-ordinary. Day after day people are still dying in Iraq in those numbers. That is not even taking into account Muslims dying in Libya, Syria or Yemen - or civilians drowning trying to flee the mess we've made. Far more Muslim people are still being killed as a result of our reckless wars; long after the conflicts are said to be over. Islamic Terrorism is not "the growing problem" that our love of war and weapons has been and still is. All human life matters. At birth we are all in a sense equal in worth. But the circumstances we are born into are not. Reality is that some life matters more to people than other human life. What is your view on abortion for example? People define things differently in terms of how closely related they feel to it. A middle eastern life has importance, but a British life is much more important to me......This will also be true for most middle eastern people and is a fact of human nature. If these things matter that much to you while do you live here. Why aren't you doing humanitarian work in one of these disadvantaged places that you rightly feel sympathy for? If you are going to moralise against other people then do so from the principles you push.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 14 Sep 17 10.03pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Can you explain what you think sharia law is. Flogging seem to play a large part in it, for having a drink, having sex, adultery - or is that the death penalty, hard to keep up, I'm pretty sure being gay is the death penalty though.
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| elgrande bedford 14 Sep 17 10.07pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
No I'm not Bob Stewart. You know he meant the teacher,if that's true its a f***ing disgrace.
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