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 paperhat  croydon 18 Jan 17 9.33am |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
How much of the terrible defence is to do with the keeper behind them? What came first, the chicken or the egg. well, it wouldn't have been Hennessy, he would stepped out of the way just before the chicken got there.
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| cpj Kent 18 Jan 17 9.48am |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
Was good to have a leader out there last night. Jules was shouting and organising the defence all game pulling them into shape with his hands. Is he Magneto in disguise??? Perhaps he should have used his superpowers to keep the ball out of the net? Edited by cpj (18 Jan 2017 9.53am)
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| Username Horsham 18 Jan 17 10.28am |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
How much of the terrible defence is to do with the keeper behind them? What came first, the chicken or the egg. I think a big thing in this debate is inconsistency of selection all along the back four + keeper. So far this season, I think we've fielded 13 different combinations of back four and keeper. We've had two stretches of four games where we've kept selection (Hennessey, Kelly, Dann, Delaney, Ward played Hull, Utd, Chelsea, Watford and Mandanda, Ward, Tomkins, Delaney, Kelly played Sunderland, Everton, West Ham, Leicester). Of 25 games in all competitions this year, we've had only 8 occasions where the same back four started two games in a row. This also ignores the midfield selection and the holding role, which has also changed an awful lot this year. Indeed, in that run of four games from Hull to Watford, we changed the holding pair for each game. Hull - Ledley and McArthur How the team is supposed to build any kind of understanding in these circumstances is beyond me. Yes, we've been let down by individual mistakes, but I think these mistakes tend to happen when people aren't playing in a system they are comfortable with. Players are having to worry about other players and the shape of the defence instead of just getting on with their job. That's what leads to moments of panic or people getting caught in two minds.
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| cpj Kent 18 Jan 17 10.32am |
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Originally posted by Username
I think a big thing in this debate is inconsistency of selection all along the back four + keeper. So far this season, I think we've fielded 13 different combinations of back four and keeper. We've had two stretches of four games where we've kept selection (Hennessey, Kelly, Dann, Delaney, Ward played Hull, Utd, Chelsea, Watford and Mandanda, Ward, Tomkins, Delaney, Kelly played Sunderland, Everton, West Ham, Leicester). Of 25 games in all competitions this year, we've had only 8 occasions where the same back four started two games in a row. This also ignores the midfield selection and the holding role, which has also changed an awful lot this year. Indeed, in that run of four games from Hull to Watford, we changed the holding pair for each game. Hull - Ledley and McArthur How the team is supposed to build any kind of understanding in these circumstances is beyond me. Yes, we've been let down by individual mistakes, but I think these mistakes tend to happen when people aren't playing in a system they are comfortable with. Players are having to worry about other players and the shape of the defence instead of just getting on with their job. That's what leads to moments of panic or people getting caught in two minds. Good post.
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 18 Jan 17 10.41am |
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Originally posted by Username
I think a big thing in this debate is inconsistency of selection all along the back four + keeper. So far this season, I think we've fielded 13 different combinations of back four and keeper. We've had two stretches of four games where we've kept selection (Hennessey, Kelly, Dann, Delaney, Ward played Hull, Utd, Chelsea, Watford and Mandanda, Ward, Tomkins, Delaney, Kelly played Sunderland, Everton, West Ham, Leicester). Of 25 games in all competitions this year, we've had only 8 occasions where the same back four started two games in a row. This also ignores the midfield selection and the holding role, which has also changed an awful lot this year. Indeed, in that run of four games from Hull to Watford, we changed the holding pair for each game. Hull - Ledley and McArthur How the team is supposed to build any kind of understanding in these circumstances is beyond me. Yes, we've been let down by individual mistakes, but I think these mistakes tend to happen when people aren't playing in a system they are comfortable with. Players are having to worry about other players and the shape of the defence instead of just getting on with their job. That's what leads to moments of panic or people getting caught in two minds.
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| Nobbybm Dartford 18 Jan 17 12.43pm |
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Originally posted by Username
I think a big thing in this debate is inconsistency of selection all along the back four + keeper. So far this season, I think we've fielded 13 different combinations of back four and keeper. We've had two stretches of four games where we've kept selection (Hennessey, Kelly, Dann, Delaney, Ward played Hull, Utd, Chelsea, Watford and Mandanda, Ward, Tomkins, Delaney, Kelly played Sunderland, Everton, West Ham, Leicester). Of 25 games in all competitions this year, we've had only 8 occasions where the same back four started two games in a row. This also ignores the midfield selection and the holding role, which has also changed an awful lot this year. Indeed, in that run of four games from Hull to Watford, we changed the holding pair for each game. Hull - Ledley and McArthur How the team is supposed to build any kind of understanding in these circumstances is beyond me. Yes, we've been let down by individual mistakes, but I think these mistakes tend to happen when people aren't playing in a system they are comfortable with. Players are having to worry about other players and the shape of the defence instead of just getting on with their job. That's what leads to moments of panic or people getting caught in two minds. Well said. Our best back four (or anyone else's) isn't necessarily the best four defenders you have. Knowing who you're playing alongside, where they'll be, who will cover if you step up/out etc is as critical as the tactics/organisation you're playing to.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 18 Jan 17 2.25pm |
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Originally posted by Username
I think a big thing in this debate is inconsistency of selection all along the back four + keeper. So far this season, I think we've fielded 13 different combinations of back four and keeper. We've had two stretches of four games where we've kept selection (Hennessey, Kelly, Dann, Delaney, Ward played Hull, Utd, Chelsea, Watford and Mandanda, Ward, Tomkins, Delaney, Kelly played Sunderland, Everton, West Ham, Leicester). Of 25 games in all competitions this year, we've had only 8 occasions where the same back four started two games in a row. This also ignores the midfield selection and the holding role, which has also changed an awful lot this year. Indeed, in that run of four games from Hull to Watford, we changed the holding pair for each game. Hull - Ledley and McArthur How the team is supposed to build any kind of understanding in these circumstances is beyond me. Yes, we've been let down by individual mistakes, but I think these mistakes tend to happen when people aren't playing in a system they are comfortable with. Players are having to worry about other players and the shape of the defence instead of just getting on with their job. That's what leads to moments of panic or people getting caught in two minds. I get your point but this situation isn't exclusive to Palace. Injuries, squad rotation and the transfer market see that all clubs shuffle playing personnel the world over. I'm certainly not buying this as an excuse.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 18 Jan 17 2.28pm |
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Originally posted by cpj
Is he Magneto in disguise??? Perhaps he should have used his superpowers to keep the ball out of the net? Edited by cpj (18 Jan 2017 9.53am) He was directing the defence and telling them to hold position, push up, keep shape. As for the goal, it was a very well taken shot placed right into the top corner. Nothing any goal keeper could have done about it. Wish our strikers could hit it like that to be honest.
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| paperhat croydon 18 Jan 17 4.04pm |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
He was directing the defence and telling them to hold position, push up, keep shape. As for the goal, it was a very well taken shot placed right into the top corner. Nothing any goal keeper could have done about it. Wish our strikers could hit it like that to be honest. yet another 'worldie' against us. you could try that a hundred times and only a handful would go in.
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| cpj Kent 18 Jan 17 4.59pm |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
He was directing the defence and telling them to hold position, push up, keep shape. As for the goal, it was a very well taken shot placed right into the top corner. Nothing any goal keeper could have done about it. Wish our strikers could hit it like that to be honest. Even WH????
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 18 Jan 17 5.03pm |
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Originally posted by cpj
Even WH???? He would have had a good flap at it but ultimately, it would would have still been a goal.
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| paperhat croydon 18 Jan 17 5.15pm |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
He would have had a good flap at it but ultimately, it would would have still been a goal. he'd still be looking for it
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