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 chris123  hove actually 18 Oct 16 6.14pm |
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If the Home Office is struggling with the older kids establishing age, why not start with kids who are clearly pre pubescent? Then get a few dentists out to Calais.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 18 Oct 16 6.29pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
I had enough trouble trying to woo my female classmates at school without having to compete with a mysterious foreign chap that had finished puberty. Edited by Part Time James (18 Oct 2016 4.17pm) You were fortunate to have female classmates, young man.
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| chris123 hove actually 18 Oct 16 6.35pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
You were fortunate to have female classmates, young man. Almost certainly a euphemism.
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| Part Time James 18 Oct 16 6.35pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
You were fortunate to have female classmates, young man. Very true. I'm pretty sure every female in my entire year rejected me at some point or another. But let's not turn this into another PTJ not being loved thread
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| johnfirewall 19 Oct 16 6.09pm |
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I see we've taken more child refugees. Successful campaign by Lily Allen or well timed PR? Now Lineker says we're racist for checking they're actually children which among the last wave, 25% weren't. I'd say it's more ageist but let's ask the people who suggest we think of the children when questioned on whether we should just take everyone because there's room.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 Oct 16 6.18pm |
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Originally posted by johnfirewall
I see we've taken more child refugees. Successful campaign by Lily Allen or well timed PR? Now Lineker says we're racist for checking they're actually children which among the last wave, 25% weren't. I'd say it's more ageist but let's ask the people who suggest we think of the children when questioned on whether we should just take everyone because there's room. Last wave? There were fourteen of them! Hardly a wave, but carry on using emotional semantically loaded words. Is there actual proof that three and half of them are over eighteen. From what I've heard on the radio today, the checks made in calais were pretty rigorous. Even if 25% (or 3 1/2) of the 14 are over 18, should they be denied being reunited with their families? Edited by nickgusset (19 Oct 2016 6.18pm)
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| becky over the moon 19 Oct 16 6.20pm |
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Saw a comment on a website site today that suggested we only take persons up to 4' 6" tall - the odd Syrian dwarf may get through, but at least we could be pretty sure that the rest were children........
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| johnfirewall 19 Oct 16 6.27pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Last wave? There were fourteen of them! Hardly a wave, but carry on using emotional semantically loaded words. Is there actual proof that three and half of them are over eighteen. From what I've heard on the radio today, the checks made in calais were pretty rigorous. Even if 25% (or 3 1/2) of the 14 are over 18, should they be denied being reunited with their families? Edited by nickgusset (19 Oct 2016 6.18pm) Is a wave supposed to indicate a large amount? How about tranche? Sorry, my figures were wrong Suppose it doesn't really matter if we bend the rules a bit if their relatives arrived via legal means but as these children are the only ones we're voluntarily taking then you have to question how the relatives preceded them.
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| JohnyBoy 19 Oct 16 6.35pm |
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Originally posted by johnfirewall
I see we've taken more child refugees. Successful campaign by Lily Allen or well timed PR? Now Lineker says we're racist for checking they're actually children which among the last wave, 25% weren't. I'd say it's more ageist but let's ask the people who suggest we think of the children when questioned on whether we should just take everyone because there's room. Surely both the Daily Mail and Lily/Gary Lineker are entitled to their views. However distasteful i find the Daily Mail they are welcome to have headlines they choose. We should remember they had a headline in 1938 that read "German jews pouring into this country", while at the same time congratulating Hitler on reclaiming the Sudetenland in the former czecheslovakia. They were also the paper for the British Union of Fascists "Hsil the blackshirts" was another one of theirs...until the outbreak of war when they had restrictions placed on them, the rest is history.....but if we only have one side of the story, or people are vilified for their views then we no longer have effective free speech....but i choose to be more inclined towards the Lily/Gary approach
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| johnfirewall 19 Oct 16 6.52pm |
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Not sure where the Mail comes in to this but I assume you're attempting to illustrate that they're both talking sh1t. I can appreciate that the majority of people who are against immigration are possibly racist but how can a policy to manage it be? I'm not going to make any sweeping generalisations about people who widely support immigration (ignoring those who'd rather the world had no borders) but let's just say people coming out with the same sort of statements are Lineker haven't really thought about what they're saying. Edited by johnfirewall (19 Oct 2016 6.53pm)
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| carlonoil Naples 19 Oct 16 6.59pm |
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Originally posted by JohnyBoy
Surely both the Daily Mail and Lily/Gary Lineker are entitled to their views. However distasteful i find the Daily Mail they are welcome to have headlines they choose. We should remember they had a headline in 1938 that read "German jews pouring into this country", while at the same time congratulating Hitler on reclaiming the Sudetenland in the former czecheslovakia. They were also the paper for the British Union of Fascists "Hsil the blackshirts" was another one of theirs...until the outbreak of war when they had restrictions placed on them, the rest is history.....but if we only have one side of the story, or people are vilified for their views then we no longer have effective free speech....but i choose to be more inclined towards the Lily/Gary approach If we are bringing the press of the 1930s into this, we should also remember that after the announcement of the Hitler-Stalin Pact (after a few days of silence due to their shock and doubt as to how to justify it) the Daily Worker had a headline of "Soviet's Dramatic Peace Move To Halt Aggression". The article went on to call it a "master stroke of Soviet peace policy" and described the British government as "warmongers".
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| JohnyBoy 19 Oct 16 7.24pm |
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Originally posted by johnfirewall
Not sure where the Mail comes in to this but I assume you're attempting to illustrate that they're both talking sh1t. I can appreciate that the majority of people who are against immigration are possibly racist but how can a policy to manage it be? I'm not going to make any sweeping generalisations about people who widely support immigration (ignoring those who'd rather the world had no borders) but let's just say people coming out with the same sort of statements are Lineker haven't really thought about what they're saying. Edited by johnfirewall (19 Oct 2016 6.53pm) My own personal opinion is that Lily /Gary are not talking sh!t actually. I do believe however that the Mail/Express (who covered the story) etc have made a concerted effort to scare the living bejaysus out of its readership over the last 2.5 years ahead of a referendum. They have tied together the issues of migration/refugees & border control with a series of scare stories of terrorism, rape, crime and creaking public services with sensationalist language that renders the innocent readers scared and against foreigners....but remember newspapers are not there to inform only to make money (voicemail hacking, fake photos of british soldiers abusing iraqis being just 2 examples.....and right wing media scapegoating has had very negative consequences historically. If you want to find out about refugees i would recommend a refugee charity website e.g voices in exile who really do great work....in my opinion
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