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jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Jul 16 8.45am | |
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Originally posted by 7mins
The liberal left (of which I admire on many issues) are as much a threat to black people in the USA as the far right are. Yeah, fair call - That's self defence. But in reality, if someone is beating the s**t out of you, and your in a fight for your life, you won't get a chance to use your gun anyhow. The point of being a police officer is that its usually you coming onto the scene where someone is taking that beating.
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7mins In the bush 12 Jul 16 9.46am | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Yeah, fair call - That's self defence. But in reality, if someone is beating the s**t out of you, and your in a fight for your life, you won't get a chance to use your gun anyhow. The point of being a police officer is that its usually you coming onto the scene where someone is taking that beating.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Jul 16 2.02pm | |
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Originally posted by 7mins
So the police are right in acting as his executioner? The man was restrained. Doesn't matter what he was, he was no longer a threat. I happen to agree on blm. Until the issue of poverty and disparity are resolved along with racism and abuse of power the issues of black america will continue. The victim is no hero, but still a victim none the less
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7mins In the bush 12 Jul 16 5.31pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
So the police are right in acting as his executioner? The man was restrained. Doesn't matter what he was, he was no longer a threat. I happen to agree on blm. Until the issue of poverty and disparity are resolved along with racism and abuse of power the issues of black america will continue. The victim is no hero, but still a victim none the less
Jamie... I travel to USA 3 times a year... I speak to black family members all the time.. Chicago is a war zone, young black men are killing each other, BLM don't say a word, why not? Edited by 7mins (12 Jul 2016 5.32pm)
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7mins In the bush 12 Jul 16 7.43pm | |
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Ray in Houston Houston 12 Jul 16 8.20pm | |
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Originally posted by EaglesEaglesEagles
America's a crazy place. You can walk around with a massive, loaded, assault rifle in some states! If you're white...
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Ray in Houston Houston 12 Jul 16 8.33pm | |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
This sort of thing happens to white people as well but it's not really a story but when a black man gets shot it's like the end of the world has come. Black men get shot and killed by police at a rate that is alarmingly disproportionate to their slice of the overall population. This is what Black Lives Matter was created to publicise.
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Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 12 Jul 16 8.36pm | |
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Originally posted by 7mins
Jamie... I travel to USA 3 times a year... I speak to black family members all the time.. Chicago is a war zone, young black men are killing each other, BLM don't say a word, why not? Edited by 7mins (12 Jul 2016 5.32pm) Fair play fella. Problem is, the issues of poverty, race and the systems which perpetuate the issues go right to the heart of the interests dictating US domestic policy (in my opinion from over here in the UK with a different skin colour). It's a f***ing nightmare.
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Ray in Houston Houston 12 Jul 16 8.41pm | |
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Originally posted by twist
This DVD selling guy was wrestled to the ground by the 2 cops, thats not an issue as they had gotten a report he was packing and he refused their commands. But then they just plain murdered him on the ground, and THEN pulled the guys gun out of his pocket. Conveniently both cops body cams "fell off", but you have 2 cell phone accounts, 1 CCTV from the store(taken by police) and 2 very close to the scene eye witnesses.
In the past, police reports, usually corroborated by multiple colleagues, have justified the use of deadly force due to a imminent threat from the suspect. What is truly disturbing is that so many incidents where independent video footage exists directly contradict the officers' reports. Basically, this has been going on forever; but those of us outside the black community are only finally coming to a realisation that this happens because of cell phone footage.
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Vaibow vancouver/croydon 12 Jul 16 8.47pm | |
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I think education is the key - informing youths and young adults that carrying illegally, resisting arrest are not going to go in your favour. Ending gang culture, cleaning up streets, having better community activities. Educating officers in high risk situations, not to pull out a gun straight away. Example, the gentleman shot and killed for reaching his ID filmed by his girlfriend - that was needless - cop should have been calmer, etc explained the situation and got his compliance. Ok, it's easy for me to say all this in hindsight, but protesting won't get action any quicker than parents and communities working together to weed out these actions.
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Ray in Houston Houston 12 Jul 16 8.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
What would be interesting would be the manner of all the shootings. If white guys are killed like that black guy after being pulled over for a broken light, for example. Or pinned down then shot. Analyse that and that would give us the answer as to whether some of these killer cops do it out of racism.
The crazy thing is that local police departments are not required to report fatal encounters to anyone. Actually tracking them all is probably impossible without federal legislation, which is highly unlikely given the gridlock in Washington these days.
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jul 16 9.06pm | |
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Originally posted by 7mins
Jamie... I travel to USA 3 times a year... I speak to black family members all the time.. Chicago is a war zone, young black men are killing each other, BLM don't say a word, why not? Edited by 7mins (12 Jul 2016 5.32pm) I can only view this from a white persons perspective but it sounds like Black lives matter but only if they are killed by white policeman. Some people would rather perpetuate division and ignore certain realities. Of course some police officers put self preservation before everything and have been conditioned to have a lower regard for life that most of us find palatable. Equally they are doing a job that most of us would not do.
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