For me the Labour party are as irrelevant as the Green party.

You think that throwing money at the NHS and education will solve all the problems. Money has been thrown at both for years with little effect. What solar and wind power have in common is that they can only produce a fraction of the power needed and cost a great deal to build.

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What solar and wind power also have in common is that they require complex control and regulation circuitry. This requires rare earth metals to function.

Rare earth metals are extracted using dangerous and environmentally damaging mining techniques. Plundering the earth's resources, if you will.

Corbyn is as far left as Nick Griffin is right. I would love it if he got control of the labour party, as that would be the final nail in the coffin for what is now a joke party. The labour party members have basically turned the party into a parody of itself.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

True, but as we're digging them out of the ground for all manner of machinery anyhow, that factor is limited. Of course Oil Refineries and Power Plants, along with fuel distribution systems and storage system pretty much use rare earth mentals extracted using dangerous and environmentally damaging mining techniques. Plus occasionally have exploded or spilled out into the oceans and land, and when burned produce pollution emissions.

Its really about the lesser environmental impact, not being the magic bean. The primary problem is the increasing population that industrial society has spammed into overdrive, and the increasing demand that places on fuel sources and resources.

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I think the idea is that by investing in 'environmentally' better fuel sources, that ultimately the technology and efficiency will likely improve and that it would be a contributory system of power generation that reduced the dependency on fossil fuels.

The simple fact is that fossil fuel dependency has a 'COB date' measured in generations, and will become an increasing problem in terms of pollution as populations increase, especially given the industrialization of countries like India, where increasing car ownership will be a problem.

Electric cars were s**t 10 years ago, but now the Prius Hybrid can hold its own against traditional fuel motor cars.

Of course my personal view is that I don't really care that much, as I'll be dead and buried by the time its a problem and I have no kids. So it is hard for me to get behind the cause, but I do understand where they are coming from.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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